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Member of staff allowed to shout racial abuse in the office...

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  • ValHaller
    ValHaller Posts: 5,212 Forumite
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    starcloud wrote: »
    Imagine you started a new job, was not from the UK and someone was shouting abuse about your background and ethnicity and the management did nothing about it - probably because the office manager and the said person are related.

    She resigned as it is not likely that the staff member in question will change her behavior or leave.
    You are getting in the wrong sort of tizz about this. If she wanted to fight it, she should not have resigned until trying to deal with it had demonstrably failed. As it is, she has walked out and the grounds for leaving for future employment will be 'resigned', not 'resigned due to racism'. Because the employer can deny it all and say that she should have raised it with them so they could deal with it.

    Now if you are going to tell us that she has already raised the matter as a grievance, that is a different matter. Before walking away, she should have given the employer a fair chance to fix things. Unfortunately, you have reacted then you have come seeking advice - better to hear the advice before acting.
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  • dshart
    dshart Posts: 439 Forumite
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    I think you need to stand back and see if the management handle the situation, if necessary raise it as a formal complaint using the company procedure. From what you say this person is not making abusive racial attacks directed at your partner so it is just a case of ignoring their rants if they continue. Have her keep notes of incidents as evidence of the persons behaviour.

    Has anyone else at her work complained or is your partner the only one?
  • ValHaller wrote: »
    You are getting in the wrong sort of tizz about this. If she wanted to fight it, she should not have resigned until trying to deal with it had demonstrably failed. As it is, she has walked out and the grounds for leaving for future employment will be 'resigned', not 'resigned due to racism'. Because the employer can deny it all and say that she should have raised it with them so they could deal with it.

    Now if you are going to tell us that she has already raised the matter as a grievance, that is a different matter. Before walking away, she should have given the employer a fair chance to fix things. Unfortunately, you have reacted then you have come seeking advice - better to hear the advice before acting.

    She informed them she feels she has to resign over this matter.

    She is in a meeting now about it.

    Due to the nepotism she thinks is involved she has no faith in the process she previously engaged in which was with a relative of this person.

    She does not want to really fight to keep the job it is to make sure that the senior management realise what is going on. That purpose is being achieved.

    The advice is more around reporting this if they then fail to act. Surely, there is a way of redress for this type of matter. As far as I am aware, if these comments were written down or recorded, that it would be a criminal offense.

    It is not just being PC but I admit there is an element of wanting to take them to task - mainly because of them being complete hypocrites for being openly racist while being accredited by the British Council work work with foreign students.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    starcloud wrote: »
    Addressing vile and racist attitudes in a work place which led to my partner losing her job over it. I won't let them get away with it.
    Did she get fired? I thought you said she resigned?

    YOU wont let them get away with it? Oh dear how old is she? I am sure she can put in a grievance if she was still there!
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  • dshart wrote: »
    I think you need to stand back and see if the management handle the situation, if necessary raise it as a formal complaint using the company procedure. From what you say this person is not making abusive racial attacks directed at your partner so it is just a case of ignoring their rants if they continue. Have her keep notes of incidents as evidence of the persons behaviour.

    Has anyone else at her work complained or is your partner the only one?

    Yes this is true, although saying it in 1 metre away from her out loud to another member of staff makes it clear that she is either so enraged that she does not care or deliberately allowing my girlfriend to overhear. It is not just an overheard conversation, it is shouted.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    You have mentioned nepotism more than once. It is perfectly legal in a private company.
  • AP007 wrote: »
    Did she get fired? I thought you said she resigned?

    YOU wont let them get away with it? Oh dear how old is she? I am sure she can put in a grievance if she was still there!

    Gave them a resignation letter

    in her late 20's

    This is the second grievance complaint she has initiated
  • ILW wrote: »
    You have mentioned nepotism more than once. It is perfectly legal in a private company.

    No it is not. You (as a manager) can't allow someone to shout out racial abuse because they are related to you.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    starcloud wrote: »
    Gave them a resignation letter

    in her late 20's

    This is the second grievance complaint she has initiated
    Yes but what is it to do with you?

    You can not get involved.
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  • Missme
    Missme Posts: 293 Forumite
    AP007 wrote: »
    Did she get fired? I thought you said she resigned?

    YOU wont let them get away with it? Oh dear how old is she? I am sure she can put in a grievance if she was still there!

    You don't have to experience something yourself to feel/know it's wrong and want to pursue it. Nor does it make the person who might benefit !!!!!!/weak/a child for not pursuing it themself.
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