Parking Charge Notice

Stroma

Things change, since pofa 2012 was enacted the advice on here has adapted, since certain companies are becoming litigant on this, it's adapted further. You are getting the current advice right now, who knows what tomorrow will bring?

Iamthestig2

Stroma wrote: »

Things change, since pofa 2012 was enacted the advice on here has adapted, since certain companies are becoming litigant on this, it's adapted further. You are getting the current advice right now, who knows what tomorrow will bring?

I should definitely state that I am 'appealing' then? Any pointers of what I can appeal on, other than the pre-estimate of losses? Signage-wise, is there a list I can access of things I should be looking for?

Thanks

Guys_Dad

Dear PPC,

Your ref xxxxxxxx

I am the registered keeper of the vehicle in question and I am appealing against the above charge.

Having checked for myself, I do not believe that your signs are BPA compliant and, therefore, the charge should be cancelled immediately.

Should you disagree, then I require you, in accordance with BRITISH PARKING ASSOCIATION requirements, to send me a POPLA code so that I may make an appeal to the independent adjudicator on this basis as well as other reasons that may emerge from further research.

Yours faithfully,


Keeper

Iamthestig2

Great- thanks for this . I don't mention the pre-estimate of losses stuff at this point? I'd really like the get them to drop the charges to save the hassle of a POPLA appeal!

Iamthestig2

Also would like to ascertain for sure if the signage is complaint! What may make it not be compliant?! Thanks

Stroma

Iamthestig2 wrote: »

Great- thanks for this . I don't mention the pre-estimate of losses stuff at this point? I'd really like the get them to drop the charges to save the hassle of a POPLA appeal!

I would because if they going to drop it this stage it will because of this, I know people here want to cost ppcs money, but as someone looking at this for the first time it's better to get this cancelled now.

Iamthestig2

Helpful advice on your signature re not revealing who you are etc Stroma, thanks .

Yes I'm not interested in costing them money, I just want to get rid of it with the least possible hassle! (Don't get me wrong though, if it went to POPLA I would fight my corner!).

So, my best best is to mention everything possible in my appeal
letter?

In what ways could the signage possibly be in breach of regs?

Umkomaas

Iamthestig2 wrote: »

Helpful advice on your signature re not revealing who you are etc Stroma, thanks .

Yes I'm not interested in costing them money, I just want to get rid of it with the least possible hassle! (Don't get me wrong though, if it went to POPLA I would fight my corner!).

So, my best best is to mention everything possible in my appeal
letter?

In what ways could the signage possibly be in breach of regs?

Signs have to comply with the BPA Code of Practice, see here:

http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/609_AOS_CoP_June_2013_update.pdf

Section 18 which describes what signs should contain and where to be placed, then Appendix B which gives a pictorial representation of dimensions etc.

But really this is not about you checking and then accepting that signs meet the required criteria, it's about you putting the PPC to proof that they do. If this gets to POPLA, that's the basis on which you will appeal.

Iamthestig2

Looking now- thanks for this - I'm a little confused though- I thought the charge being too high was my main appeal point?

jeanraffio

Iamthestig2 wrote: »

Helpful advice on your signature re not revealing who you are etc Stroma, thanks .

Yes I'm not interested in costing them money, I just want to get rid of it with the least possible hassle! (Don't get me wrong though, if it went to POPLA I would fight my corner!).

So, my best best is to mention everything possible in my appeal
letter?

In what ways could the signage possibly be in breach of regs?

The aim of the first appeal to the PPC would clearly to show them that a) you feel the charge is unjust and b) to indirectly show them that you are aware of your knowledge and inclination to not let this drop.

PPCs extort money through fear, and that is how they generate their revenue - by misinterpreting legislation and asking for money without any legal basis. Send out enough of these tickets and some will just pay up.

It may be the case that they cancel the ticket, if not POPLA is your friend and it has been proven many times over that with the correctly worded appeal you have a fantastic chance of getting it turned over. Not over that you have broken 'the laws', but the money they ask for is crazy (genuine pre-estimation of loss) and with no real basis why this is.

As for the signs, maybe they were not displayed clearly, dirty and unable to be read, situated behind an overgrown tree, vandalised etc etc. Maybe they haven't been updated recently and mention out of date legislation?