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  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,472 Forumite
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    Dunroamin wrote: »
    Plenty of MPs employ a family member in (non) jobs - doesn't make it right.
    If it's a "non job" then it's probably fraud. Didn't some get pulled up on this sort of thing in the expenses scandal?
  • zagfles
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    jules1964 wrote: »
    Why are you so rude, I shall report you because your posts are offensive, you are personally attacking another member and bullying.
    Go for it. There's a lot of other such posts on this thread - it probably needs a good pruning anyway as it's gone way OT.
  • zagfles
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    FBaby wrote: »
    Well then I went to be paid as a cleaner, a counsellor to my friend, a tutor to my kids, a doctor to my mother in law oh and.... I might even request to be paid to provide massage services whilst I'm at it....where does it end?

    And considering that if I did, I wouldn't need to earn money outside of the home any longer, and considering that most female would be able to do the same and stop work, where are those tax allowances going to come from?
    Well you've been well and truely whooshed :rotfl: Read it again, carefully. There's no tax saving. It's not extra money coming out of somewhere, the household income is still the same. It's a way of preserving a NI record by formalising "housewife/husband" type work.
  • NYM
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    zagfles wrote: »
    Well you've been well and truely whooshed :rotfl: Read it again, carefully. There's no tax saving. It's not extra money coming out of somewhere, the household income is still the same. It's a way of preserving a NI record by formalising "housewife/husband" type work.



    HMRC would not allow such an arrangement. Never have....never will. :)
  • zagfles wrote: »
    Who cares? The OP was asking about benefit entitlement if she gave up work, not judgement. She has been given the answer.

    People with babies are allowed to give up work and claim benefits. Don't like it? Diddums. Go rant on DT, or write to your MP. This board is for benefit entitlement advice not judgement.

    If you don't like what I am saying then tough, a lifestyle choice to have babies and then expect the state to pick up the bill. If you cant afford them dont have them, dont look at ways of giving up work and expecting others to fund your children.
  • zagfles
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    NYM wrote: »
    HMRC would not allow such an arrangement. Never have....never will. :)
    Really? What's the law that says you're not allowed to employ your spouse in a domestic capacity?
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,472 Forumite
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    If you don't like what I am saying then tough, a lifestyle choice to have babies and then expect the state to pick up the bill. If you cant afford them dont have them, dont look at ways of giving up work and expecting others to fund your children.
    If the OP wants to stay at home with their baby and claim benefits, they can. Get used to it. If you don't like the rules, lobby your MP.

    And before whinging about children getting subsidied, maybe think about the subsidy you got as a child, and the fact that in a generation's time, the children of today will be the working adults and the working adults of today will be the pensioners, so the subsidy will be the other way round.
  • NYM
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    It's contemptible that a poster demands others solely use this forum to provide advice for benefit entitlement whilst actually advising deceitful and possible illegal methods to circumvent tax laws......

    :angry:
  • NYM
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    zagfles wrote: »
    Really? What's the law that says you're not allowed to employ your spouse in a domestic capacity?


    Perhaps you could show the 'law' that allows a spouse to 'employ' their partner in a domestic situation.

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  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,472 Forumite
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    NYM wrote: »
    Perhaps you could show the 'law' that allows a spouse to 'employ' their partner in a domestic situation.

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    :rotfl:You think there has to be a law specifically allowing things? What's the law that allows someone to use a username NYM on an internet forum :rotfl:

    Anyway...

    1) It's perfectly legal to employ your spouse. Self employed people do it all the time, even MPs as mentioned above.

    2) It's perfectly legal to employ a maid/housekeeper, pay them as an employee, and for them to get the usual Class 1 NI benefits of employment.

    So, if the "maid/housekeeper" can't be your spouse, there must be a specific law/rule disallowing it. Unless you can quote that, we can only assume you haven't got a clue.

    Obviously they do actually have to do the job you're paying them for, and employment legislation needs following. Also there's no tax benefit, in fact the assessed household income would increase so it would be counter-productive if the couple are claiming tax credits or benefits, or if the SAHP has other income which takes them above the tax allowance.
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