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  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Its it really how you see stay at home mums? Babysitters to their own kids? I would have loved to stay home and looked after mine, I would have hatred looking after someone else's kids. I really don't think you can even start comparing the level of satisfaction. One is enjoying time with your family the other is work, so really don't understand the point you are trying to make.
  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    zagfles wrote: »
    Who cares? The OP was asking about benefit entitlement if she gave up work, not judgement. She has been given the answer.

    People with babies are allowed to give up work and claim benefits. Don't like it? Diddums. Go rant on DT, or write to your MP. This board is for benefit entitlement advice not judgement.

    Some are entitled. You know those on bennies. Others have to work to pay for their bennies.
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,479 Forumite
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    FBaby wrote: »
    Its it really how you see stay at home mums? Babysitters to their own kids? I would have loved to stay home and looked after mine, I would have hatred looking after someone else's kids. I really don't think you can even start comparing the level of satisfaction. One is enjoying time with your family the other is work, so really don't understand the point you are trying to make.
    The point is that whether you pay a stranger to look after your children, or you give up work and look after them yourself, there's a cost. Either a direct cost (the cost of the childminder/nursery) or an indirect cost (loss of wages). Both have the potential for state subsidy, eg childcare tax credits, vouchers, extra tax credits/benefits because income is lower etc. And hopefully soon - transferrable tax allowances.
  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    zagfles wrote: »
    The point is that whether you pay a stranger to look after your children, or you give up work and look after them yourself, there's a cost. Either a direct cost (the cost of the childminder/nursery) or an indirect cost (loss of wages). Both have the potential for state subsidy, eg childcare tax credits, vouchers, extra tax credits/benefits because income is lower etc. And hopefully soon - transferrable tax allowances.

    Some people's tax credits are larger than their wages!
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,479 Forumite
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    Some people's tax credits are larger than their wages!
    Some peoples' WTC childcare element alone is larger than their wages!
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    zagfles wrote: »

    I'm no more in favour of people fiddling the tax and NI system than I am their fiddling benefits, legal or not. You should be ashamed.:(
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,479 Forumite
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    Dunroamin wrote: »
    I'm no more in favour of people fiddling the tax and NI system than I am their fiddling benefits, legal or not. You should be ashamed.:(
    Actually I'm proud of that one (or would be if I'd thought it up - I have to admit I didn't invent it - I read it somewhere).

    Personally I think work in the home should be valued - if you paid a maid/servant to do your housework he/she'd get NI credits etc, why shouldn't a housewife/husband? If someone wants to pay their partner for doing their ironing/cooking, why shouldn't they do it officially? Plenty of SE people employ their spouse doing paperwork etc, and they can offset against tax too. Why not doing housework etc?
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    zagfles wrote: »
    Actually I'm proud of that one (or would be if I'd thought it up - I have to admit I didn't invent it - I read it somewhere).

    Personally I think work in the home should be valued - if you paid a maid/servant to do your housework he/she'd get NI credits etc, why shouldn't a housewife/husband? If someone wants to pay their partner for doing their ironing/cooking, why shouldn't they do it officially? Plenty of SE people employ their spouse doing paperwork etc, and they can offset against tax too. Why not doing housework etc?

    Plenty of MPs employ a family member in (non) jobs - doesn't make it right.
  • jules1964
    jules1964 Posts: 309 Forumite
    edited 17 October 2013 at 11:59PM
    zagfles wrote: »
    Oh grow up. You broke the forum rules so your posts were deleted. Live and learn instead of whining like a baby.

    The difference is I would never make a comment like that in a thread where eg a working parent was asking for advice on childcare entitlement. I would just tell them what their entitlement was, instead of trying to tell them what they are doing is wrong.

    People asking questions about benefit entitlement should not be judged. That's da rools according to :money:, if you don't like them you know what to do.

    Ta ta.

    Why are you so rude, I shall report you because your posts are offensive, you are personally attacking another member and bullying.
    Never argue with a fool, they will lower you to their level and then beat you with experience.........!!!:rotfl::T
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Well then I went to be paid as a cleaner, a counsellor to my friend, a tutor to my kids, a doctor to my mother in law oh and.... I might even request to be paid to provide massage services whilst I'm at it....where does it end?

    And considering that if I did, I wouldn't need to earn money outside of the home any longer, and considering that most female would be able to do the same and stop work, where are those tax allowances going to come from?
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