Claiming JSA - apprenticeship refusal

Dunroamin

Treevo wrote: »

That ends after 13 weeks, regardless of which type of JSA is claimed.

If she hasn't found a suitable role after four months - it's time to expand the search, and that includes jobs you think she's above.

What was she doing before July? If there's a good reason she lost her job then that might help her convince the job centre that these positions aren't suitable, but if she played any part in her becoming unemployed, they wont' (nor should they) have any incentive to help her avoid paid employment. No matter how degrading you think it is.

Actually, it's 26 weeks.

Dunroamin

spacey2012 wrote: »

On on of the big retail parks one of the store mangers was telling me how just about everyone he knew on the retail park had lost their jobs only to be replaced by "apprentices" doing menial shop work.
They send people round to sign the big shops up to the apprentice scheme and there is no limit to the numbers they can take.

Calling shop work "menial" only illustrates your prejudices and weakens the rest of your argument.

spacey2012

There is no debate to win, your mentality is a core value of people need to be made to work for no pay to "each em a lesson" and my core value is.
We are not slaves for some billionaire to exploit and a fair days work deserves a fair days pay and if we stand together and stand strong we can have one, but follow your principles and we will be living in huts chained to the wall .

Life is not about working your backside in exploitation off to make someone rich, it is about living.

Giving away freedoms your ancestors fought for as they worked as 7 year old children chained up in mills is what these people running the country want, their family fortunes were sewn on slave labour of the mill owner days, workers paid minuscule wages and they know this is the path back to wealth of the good old days, stealing the pittance they pay workers back from them.

I suggest you research some family history and see how your ancestors lived and stop sucking up the Daily mail "core values" they are shoving in to your head.
One day, you will be no more, nobody cares one bit about your working class pride and morals then and neither shall those living from the sweat from your back.
Debate that.

sammyjammy

Dunroamin wrote: »

Actually, it's 26 weeks.

I think Treevo was referring to the Permitted period rather than JSA C. I am not even sure OPs daughter would have had one if she has no long term history of a sepcifc type of work.

gettingready

My daughter does have a long enough work history and her JSA is contribution based.

Besides - the question here was about apprentership and the sense of sending someone for training in what said person already has enough experience - which is illogical.

alwaysonthego_2

I have just qualified as a social worker after completing a MA, there is a lack of social work positions for newly qualified social workers so I have got a support work role, paying well above the minimum wage but I figured while I find a job that I qualified for I would get a job to keep up to date with my practice skills and learning. I live in a rural location but was invited to attend 20 job interviews for support worker jobs, I did not attend many of them as I had accepted my current job. I am also volunteering a day a week as a social worker to gain more experience. Your daughter should do something similar, in her desired work area. I am sure that she should be able to secure a temp job living in London, if not then she wants to check out her CV or job applications.

gettingready

Just to repeat:

the question here was about apprentership and the sense of sending someone for training in what said person already has enough experience - which is illogical.

kelpie35

I think your DD should be lucky to have the chance of an apprenticeship.

There are thousands of young people who would jump at this opportunity.

How do you know it might not lead to a very well paid job if she sticks in and shows she is a conscientious worker.

If I was the parent I would be so proud that my son/daughter was even considered for this job.

alwaysonthego_2

gettingready wrote: »

Just to repeat:

People are offering advice for your daughter so she isn't railroaded into doing an apprentice, but I guess it isn't relevant. My experience of working as a welfare rights officer is your daughter will be sanctioned if she is seen to be turning down any offer of paid employment whether it be a apprenticeship or NMW.

saintjammyswine

No ifs or buts, with a degree, there will be NO funding for an apprenticeship. Therefore, if the employer wants to take them on for this, they would have to pay for the training in full or pay her full wage but with no qualifications (not an apprenticeship).