Claiming JSA - apprenticeship refusal

skitler

gettingready wrote: »

My daughter has a degree in Law & Criminology but that is not relevant here.

The apprenticeship is a warehouse admin job, something she has done for just over a year while at Uni and she was paid 21k per year for it at the time.

No, this is not what she wants to do but - she would not mind the job if it is offered at normal pay but not for the peanuts under the "apprenticeship" cover when she can walk in and do the job of a salaried person from day 1. This is simply not right.

but there isn't a job on offer, only a apprenticeship, weather she has done it b4 or not is irrelevant. she will be off the dole. and with a degree in law she should know better than trying to buck the system or getting mummy to do it for her.

seven-day-weekend

spacey2012 wrote: »

Some right pilloks on here !
Throwing muck at people who are been punished by a greedy Government.
The poor lass looses her job and is getting forced back as a fake apprentice doing the same job but for a bag of peanuts where she got a working wage before and you think she deserves it.
Most of these benefit bashers are sat scrounging tax credits, yet they think they have some moral grounds to slag others.
Well let the first without sin chuck the muck.
Stop claiming benefits yourselves in tax credits, a benefit is a benefit, then come back and chuck your opinions around.
This is coming to everyone make no mistake and some of you will deserve it.

I have never claimed any Benefits in my life (other than Child Benefit for one child which at that time everyone with a child was eligible for).

I now receive State Pension, but have paid into that for the required length of time.

Person_one

I always thought the point of an apprenticeship was to take someone with no experience and train them up until they can do the full job.

So has that now changed and apprenticeships are a way for employers to take on people who can already do the job but pay them a fraction of the proper wage?

gettingready

Person_one wrote: »

I always thought the point of an apprenticeship was to take someone with no experience and train them up until they can do the full job.

So has that now changed and apprenticeships are a way for employers to take on people who can already do the job but pay them a fraction of the proper wage?

Exactly the problem here....Thanks

marybelle01

Person_one wrote: »

I always thought the point of an apprenticeship was to take someone with no experience and train them up until they can do the full job.

So has that now changed and apprenticeships are a way for employers to take on people who can already do the job but pay them a fraction of the proper wage?

To be fair, we have no idea what the employer thinks. We just know what the JobCentre thinks! The employer may not be looking for a graduate with experience, and that may not be what they want. For all we know the employer is looking for a 16/17 year old school leaver with no experience and wants to train someone up to a standard where they are a useful employee for the future. There are such employers around! This vacancy, recommended by the JobCentre advisor, may not be appropriate for the OP's daughter, but does not mean that the position isn't suitable for someone else, or that the employer is doing anything other than providing a genuine opportunity for a young person.

Treevo

gettingready wrote: »

My daughter has a degree in Law & Criminology but that is not relevant here.

The apprenticeship is a warehouse admin job, something she has done for just over a year while at Uni and she was paid 21k per year for it at the time.

No, this is not what she wants to do but - she would not mind the job if it is offered at normal pay but not for the peanuts under the "apprenticeship" cover when she can walk in and do the job of a salaried person from day 1. This is simply not right.

That is relevant. As others have explained it means that the employer will likely not receive any funding to help fund the apprenticeship - which the company will know.

Just a tip - if you're asking for advice for a particular situation that you know nothing about, you're probably not the best person to decide what's relevant.

And it's not 'slave labour' if she's being paid.

gettingready

It is a slave labour if she is not getting PAID what normal person doing the job would be paid but is given some £101 per week instead.

Considering she has experience in this particular job and does not need to be "trained" - she should be paid a normal wage or this should be offered/recommended to someone who does not have experience and wishes to gain some.

How is this not a slave labour?

Person_one

gettingready wrote: »

It is a slave labour if she is not getting PAID what normal person doing the job would be paid but is given some £101 per week instead.

Considering she has experience in this particular job and does not need to be "trained" - she should be paid a normal wage or this should be offered/recommended to someone who does not have experience and wishes to gain some.

How is this not a slave labour?

Its not slave labour. Its undervalued labour if it happens, but using such hyperbole is not helpful.

Lieja

marybelle01 wrote: »

To be fair, we have no idea what the employer thinks. We just know what the JobCentre thinks! The employer may not be looking for a graduate with experience, and that may not be what they want. For all we know the employer is looking for a 16/17 year old school leaver with no experience and wants to train someone up to a standard where they are a useful employee for the future. There are such employers around! This vacancy, recommended by the JobCentre advisor, may not be appropriate for the OP's daughter, but does not mean that the position isn't suitable for someone else, or that the employer is doing anything other than providing a genuine opportunity for a young person.

This.

My job involves finding young people to refer into apprenticeships with other employers. When I approach the JC for young people, they often send me people who are very experienced or qualified. I would never refer these people on unless they specifically said they really really wanted it despite their experience or qualifications.

skitler

Person_one wrote: »

Its not slave labour. Its undervalued labour if it happens, but using such hyperbole is not helpful.

well said.... some folk eh!! any one would think it was the op that was being asked to take the position. take some legal advice on the situation op, from your daughter. stop winging, lots of people would be grateful for a position that you think is beneath your daughter, some folk just don't know when there well off, or maybe you are well off and want to go shopping all day. well what else is she going to do?

Should our goverment tell the EU to do one? (1 2 3)
mha
read this post there may be some work in it for her if mha is to be believed.