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  • esmy
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    Oh are they the Biff and Chip ones? Are they still going??! They were pronounced 'stupid' by DD but were read, if in the most bored voice she could muster! (DD mentioned is now 23 with an English degree)..
  • double_mummy
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    Savvy_Sue wrote: »
    Academy or not, I didn't think homework could be enforced.

    There's no skirting around this, there are some situations where a child just cannot do what's asked of them. Just because 90% of the class can, doesn't mean they can. And if they can't work out what someone else might be feeling from looking at pictures, no amount of practice will get them there.

    You can TELL them that you think the other person might be sad / happy / excited because ... but it may well be completely meaningless.

    The school doctor who talked to me about DS1's 'quirks' said "he can't say he loves you, he has only said this to us since his younger sister started saying it to us about sa year ago and doesnt say he loves anything else he doesn't know what that is, his brain doesn't have the wiring." All the times I'd tried to get him to empathise, to understand why his brothers were upset that he'd destroyed a Lego model or whatever - no, nothing there. I could tell him that if they destroyed one of HIS models he'd be upset, but just because HE would be upset didn't mean he could appreciate that THEY would be upset. Wiring not there. sounds exactly like him

    Also, when DS1 was doing his GCSEs, DH said to him "Never underestimate the stupidity of the examiner." See, DS1 couldn't work out WHY he was being asked about the meaning of Romeo's speech to Juliet etc - surely the teachers and those asking these questions already KNOW all that stuff?

    Obviously that's a stage to come ... but at 6, I can appreciate the incredulity - "You want MORE? I've said he's got a blue shirt on, what more do you need to KNOW?" yup he says that

    I'd back off. DS1 is now a reasonably well-adjusted young man, with friends and a social life. I'm still not sure he understands how people feel ...

    lol sounding more and more likely i have been having a chat with hubby and looking at some sites and it looks like all the indicators are there so deffo gunna get my head out of the sand and start doing something about it
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  • double_mummy
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    esmy wrote: »
    Oh are they the Biff and Chip ones? yup got it all to do again with daughter form next year!!!! Are they still going??! unfortunately They were pronounced 'stupid' by DD but were read, if in the most bored voice she could muster! (DD mentioned is now 23 with an English degree)..

    yup o that reminds me another comment he always gets is that he cant read with expression
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  • i am going to ask to see the head and senco i have told her that he doesnt understand what he has to do and she says that he is the same in class if she asks him to write a fact sheet he will spend ages on it and it will be amazing the second he has to describe or put emotions in he falls apart

    I used to beg for homework. Didn't mean I was neurotypical. As it is, I feel emotions - but some situations, whilst I understand them logically, I don't have the same emotional response that others seem to; I've worked in places where I've handled what should be distressing information or seen things many wouldn't and been unaffected by it. I was good at creative stuff, but hated the bit later on when it gets to 'what are your feelings about this poem?'.

    Same with big news stories; I know it's awful, but I don't get tearyeyed or angry about it.

    Doesn't mean I don't love my fella, my kids and cats.
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  • we have done this but he wont write it up and cant hand in work that he didnt do

    we have dictation software on the computer and he can use that really well (his dad is very dyslexic) but it still isnt anything more than the facts

    My son wouldn't write it up either, but it was his work, I had merely acted as his scribe. Once he was told he was allowed to type it, he would.
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    As it is, I feel emotions - but some situations, whilst I understand them logically, I don't have the same emotional response that others seem to; I've worked in places where I've handled what should be distressing information or seen things many wouldn't and been unaffected by it. I was good at creative stuff, but hated the bit later on when it gets to 'what are your feelings about this poem?'.
    Yes, I remember when my Dad died, DS1 was absolutely brilliant. I was absolutely beside myself at 2 am trying to order a crystal engraving thing for their wedding anniversary: Dad had been planning to get one for Mum but hadn't managed it. And the bl**dy photo wouldn't upload. And it had to be done THEN or it wouldn't arrive before their wedding anniversary. And I asked DS1 to help, and he was completely calm and said "I can see you're upset, I don't really understand why, and I'm not sure how I can help." And really, that calmness was just what I needed.
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  • Poppy9
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    Horrendous amount of homework for a primary age child. When DD was younger if she couldn't do her homework it was returned with a note. I expected no punishment.

    Your son is doing well at a lot of things, why should he have to be good at everything though? Try a couple of weeks of no homework and see how he reacts and if he's more relaxed and less stressed.
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  • It just sounds so so wrong that a 6 year old is being forced to do homework that makes him so distressed and then punished by the school for not doing it :(
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  • Janepig
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    I can't believe the amount of homework that the school put on the OP's son. And Spanish? At 6? Although I suppose it's no worse than the fact that my two go to a Welsh school. But still. DS has just gone into year 3 (he's 7) and we were told there's no regular homework until at least after the first half term, and then it's not much. He brought a homework sheet home on Monday which was 8 letters of the alphabet in boxes and he had to write a word beginning with that letter and draw a picture. It's only in year 3 that they start doing English, he's been taught solely in welsh up to now.

    DD's in year 6 and she gets homework two or three times a week now but that's no more than about 10-15 minutes work at most, we do it as soon as she gets in from school. They do have to stay in at playtime if it's not completed at home, but only until they've completed it. One of DD's friends actually forged a note for her in breakfast club last term as if it was from me explaining why she hadn't done her homework (she'd left it at home). I was mortified.

    As for the empathy thing, there's no less empathetic child than DD, but the word Autistic wouldn't even cross my mind for her. I find it strange that because a six year old boy doesn't like doing his literacy homework (like most six year old boys I would guess) then there must be something medically wrong with him.

    And as for not reading with expression? He's 6 fgs. I wouldn't expect most six year olds to be able to read with expression. Let him be a child.

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  • Janepig
    Janepig Posts: 16,780 Forumite
    edited 11 October 2013 at 6:21PM
    Poppy9 wrote: »
    Horrendous amount of homework for a primary age child. When DD was younger if she couldn't do her homework it was returned with a note. I expected no punishment.

    Your son is doing well at a lot of things, why should he have to be good at everything though? Try a couple of weeks of no homework and see how he reacts and if he's more relaxed and less stressed.

    THIS!!!

    Not to mention that my two have lives outside of school, and lots of homework would certainly be difficult for them to fit in alongside all the other stuff, sports clubs, Beavers, parties, and to be honest, sitting and vegging out in front of the tv or playing outside. When does the OP's son have time to be six, when all he's doing is homework, spellings, times tables and reading books every single day, as well as doing it in school.

    Jx
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