Help losing weight

atrixblue.-MFR-.

CoffeeCake wrote: »

My tip is - don't do excersise for the sake of it, if you don't enjoy it or it gets too repetitive you won't stick to it (I managed to last 6 weeks going to a gym, hated it after 2 weeks :-)

Instead I took up a martial art which I'd always fancied having a go at but was worried I was too big. I am still going now 5 years later, slimmer, fitter & a black belt :-)

So - if there's an activity or sport you're intrested in & like to do, go for it!

everyone has a different mindset to the other, so if one is determine to do something they tend to stick at it even if they don't like it, some want to do it but haven't the mindset to stick at it some are socially active so when it comes to doing things on their own theres no motivation as others aren't around them to do it with.

its seen as clich! thing to use workout video's, but my wife said its not the video or the thought of doing the video its not being able to enjoy the video instructor, my wife likes davina so can relate the video she hates the biggest loser America ones as the woman and the bloke ones tend to be very patronizing as they do less than those around them and bang on and on and with nothing informative so cant relate to it because he or she isn't practicing what they are preaching.

some people would rather walking in all weathers just get moving rather than do martial arts or watch or be in one spot with a video, its mindset rather than repetitive.

NICKTONE

for weight loss we have to eat fruits and avoid protein diet.

NigeWick

NICKTONE wrote: »

for weight loss we have to eat fruits and avoid protein diet.

Absolute rubbish IMHO. Fruit contains sugar and is not necessary for life. Don't get me wrong, fruit contains some good stuff but should not be a staple part of a weight loss regime. Protein is required to build muscle and the more lean muscle we have, the more calories our bodies burn. The modified Atkins low carb and higher fat diet has been proven to be an effective starting point.

There is a growing body of evidence to show that trying to emulate a hunter gatherer diet produces weight loss and health benefits. We can not get an exact copy of a pre farming diet but we can get a reasonable approximation that offers good results.

nmlc

Evening everyone

I hope you don't mind me posting but just wanted to share my experiences and my thoughts with you. I've always had a battle with my weight and have yo-yo'd from being a sensible weight to be grossly overweight. I like most people in this position have tried most of the diets and diet supplements on the market - and you lose all the weight and then put it back on and some more! I was quite depressed (although I didn't acknowledge just how much at the time) and we were invited to my best friends wedding - really wanted to go but had the usual nightmare I don't have anything decent to wear and couldn't find anything I felt comfortable in because I was so fat etc, but eventually found something. It was away so we went and stayed in the hotel where she was getting married and the kids were looked after by their grandparents, we had a wonderful weekend and it was great - until I was printing off the photographs we'd taken - I had a my LBM and realised just how big I was and knew at that moment that a) I had to do something about my weight and b) knew I didn't want to be fat anymore. From that day I started eating sensibly - 3 x meals a day, no diet clubs/supplements etc, just a balanced sensible diet, (if you've done all the diets like most of us you know what you should be doing - it's just doing it!). I lost the first half stone and thought I would go to a diet club if the weight loss slowed/stopped but I just kept eating sensibly and I've lost somewhere between 4 and a half stone and five stone since June 2009 - my weight is pretty stable right now and I've been like this for well over 18 months, although at the moment I'm trying to lose a bit more. This is going to sound very indulgent but I feel to be successful and really keep the weight off for a while it has to be the most important thing in your life, you have to really really want it - I've been successful at losing weight with clubs before but find the ongoing maintenance very difficult to keep the weight stable. I haven't cut anything particular out of my diet just eat food that I know is good, wholesome and I enjoy it. I suffered with IBS and after 2-3 days of starting my healthier eating my IBS symptoms had virtually disappeared I now know which foods trigger it off and steer clear from them generally, (mostly food with a lot of fat in them, some breads, too much alcohol etc). My whole relationship with food now is different too, I've always cooked and baked lots and had stopped doing it - namely so I didn't eat it and getting even bigger than I already was! Now I bake/cook all the time and eat what I make occasionally as a treat (have 2 x teenage boys and a DH that hoover up the goodies and they are not grossly overweight) - I know that I don't want to be fat anymore and also feel so much better in myself healthwise that I don't eat foods that potentially can triggle the IBS. I do still have treats and if I want something then I have it, nothing is off limits, but I make better food choices. I now feel so much better in myself (I always maintained that my weight didn't stop me doing anything I wanted and my day to day life wasn't affected but once I started to lose the weight I realised how poorly on occasions I felt and that did stop me doing everything I wanted). In the past 4 years I've done no real amount of exercise, except it's the old saying "the more you do, the more you feel you can do", that's very true. I now do in 1 day what used to take me 2 days and I don't feel like my back is breaking at the end of it either. I'm generally content with myself and my life, obviously there's days where things don't go to plan but I'm now able to get through it and then put it behind me and move forward. I've found for sustained weight loss cutting out things completely really doesn't do you any good, I feel much healthier, happier. I agree with the old saying "a little bit of everything doesn't do you any harm"!

I hope you find this positive but I wouldn't now use any diet clubs etc ever again, just be sensible with the eating etc and using your knowledge from going to these places before you know what to do, so you can apply that and save yourself the money - maybe put that into a pot and use it to treat yourself to a beauty treatment, new clothes, spa day etc as a reward to first half stone/stone loss etc.

Hope something from my post may help you,

nmlc x

SilS

spacey2012 wrote: »

Stop eating Bread and potatoes.
Try it.

It think it's not enough, as far as I judge on my personal experience...

Rich1984

We're two pages in and no one has mentioned the obvious with weight loss. It's all about caloric management.

Fad diets or stupid weight loss pills are a waste of time. You need to track your calories using something like myfitnesspal (its free).

Basically everyone has a maintenence level for calories (an amount with which you will neither gain or lose weight). Everyone's number will be different based upon genetics, motabolism etc.

As a women I would recommend starting on about 1500/1700cals a day. If you start losing weight then stick at it, if not your gonna have to drop it some more.

I'd say proteins and carbs should make up about 40% each of your diet and 20% fats. Healthy fats if possible, but sneaking in a chocolate bar to total up your fats isn't going to do much harm. It's a myth that you have to avoid bad food completely to lose weight. You just have to stay within you caloric and macro (protein/carb/fat) numbers.

COUNT YOUR CALORIES AND WEIGHT WILL COME OFF EASILY.

It's as simple as that.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Rich1984 wrote: »

We're two pages in and no one has mentioned the obvious with weight loss. It's all about caloric management.

Fad diets or stupid weight loss pills are a waste of time. You need to track your calories using something like myfitnesspal (its free).

Basically everyone has a maintenence level for calories (an amount with which you will neither gain or lose weight). Everyone's number will be different based upon genetics, motabolism etc.

As a women I would recommend starting on about 1500/1700cals a day. If you start losing weight then stick at it, if not your gonna have to drop it some more.

I'd say proteins and carbs should make up about 40% each of your diet and 20% fats. Healthy fats if possible, but sneaking in a chocolate bar to total up your fats isn't going to do much harm. It's a myth that you have to avoid bad food completely to lose weight. You just have to stay within you caloric and macro (protein/carb/fat) numbers.

COUNT YOUR CALORIES AND WEIGHT WILL COME OFF EASILY.

It's as simple as that.

1500-1700 cal a day is near on starving yourself RDA is 2000, the body will start to store fat that you intake rather than disperse it and youll become fatigued and have less energy because you not taking things that give you energy.

counting cals is good way to start, but you should always count your cals that your intaking on a normal non diet day, then once you start your cal diet reduce the cal intake.

E.G

you normal cal intake is 15000. with healthy eating and exorsize reduce it to 12000 for 14 days, then to 9000 for 14days then to 6000 for 14 days then to 3000 for 14 days then down to your desired amount if that's 1500 then so be
it but once the weight is down to your desired level you should stick to the RDA of 2000 per day to maintain that weight.

going from 15000 to 1500 overnight will just make you feel more hungry as brain says hey your starving your body I must store what fat you have in you for you to survive and have the energy to move your limbs.


this gives your body time to adjust to the less amount of intake allows time for the stomach to shrink and not confuse the body into thinking it needs to store fat.

NigeWick

Rich1984 wrote: »

COUNT YOUR CALORIES AND WEIGHT WILL COME OFF EASILY.

It's as simple as that.

Nope, it isn't. Some calories are better than others. Yes, being aware of calories helps but more important is what we put into our bodies. Fresh lean meat, fowl, fish, eggs and vegetables are far better than bread, jam, doughnuts, pies, cake, pizza and etc.

Proper food provides the nutrition we need and makes us feel fuller for longer so we do not eat as much. Carbohydrate/sugar laden food gives an immediate high followed by a dip in blood sugar that makes us crave more food more quickly.

There's nothing wrong with animal fat either, so long as it comes from naturally fed ones and not intensively farmed beasts fed on grains etc.

People losing weight need to remember that it likely will not come off completely evenly but in fits and starts with the occasional annoying plateau, like the one I'm on now.

Rich1984

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

1500-1700 cal a day is near on starving yourself RDA is 2000, the body will start to store fat that you intake rather than disperse it and youll become fatigued and have less energy because you not taking things that give you energy.

counting cals is good way to start, but you should always count your cals that your intaking on a normal non diet day, then once you start your cal diet reduce the cal intake.

E.G

you normal cal intake is 15000. with healthy eating and exorsize reduce it to 12000 for 14 days, then to 9000 for 14days then to 6000 for 14 days then to 3000 for 14 days then down to your desired amount if that's 1500 then so be
it but once the weight is down to your desired level you should stick to the RDA of 2000 per day to maintain that weight.

going from 15000 to 1500 overnight will just make you feel more hungry as brain says hey your starving your body I must store what fat you have in you for you to survive and have the energy to move your limbs.


this gives your body time to adjust to the less amount of intake allows time for the stomach to shrink and not confuse the body into thinking it needs to store fat.

Fair point, but my general point was to find your maintenence level and go from there. If the lady's maintenence level is above the calorie level I suggested then it's simply a case of making the adjustment. The human body doesn't notice major diet changes for a week or more. Regardless of where she starts off calorie wise the important bit is to find the maintenence number.

NigeWick wrote: »

Nope, it isn't. Some calories are better than others. Yes, being aware of calories helps but more important is what we put into our bodies. Fresh lean meat, fowl, fish, eggs and vegetables are far better than bread, jam, doughnuts, pies, cake, pizza and etc.

Proper food provides the nutrition we need and makes us feel fuller for longer so we do not eat as much. Carbohydrate/sugar laden food gives an immediate high followed by a dip in blood sugar that makes us crave more food more quickly.

There's nothing wrong with animal fat either, so long as it comes from naturally fed ones and not intensively farmed beasts fed on grains etc.

People losing weight need to remember that it likely will not come off completely evenly but in fits and starts with the occasional annoying plateau, like the one I'm on now.

I think your stating the obvious and I didn't feel I needed to. I think even the most uneducated person in terms of dieting would know that healthy foods generally equal a healthy body (obviously in the right moderation).

I did point out the percentages of protein/carbs/fats she should take, although that to can be adjusted.

I will stand by my point that fats can come from anywhere though as long as you stick to your macro number. Healthy fats (nuts, avacado etc) are ideal, but a chocolate will do the trick if nothing else is available.

As for weight loss, your right it won't necessarily be linear, but it can be close to if your tracking properly. Only when you get to low bodyfat percentages does it become difficult to do that. That's when your going to hit plateau's and you have to get creative.

I can quite easily decide whether I want to lose say 0-2 lbs in a week or 2-4lbs (just an example).

Anoneemoose

Rich1984 wrote: »

Fair point, but my general point was to find your maintenence level and go from there. If the lady's maintenence level is above the calorie level I suggested then it's simply a case of making the adjustment. The human body doesn't notice major diet changes for a week or more. Regardless of where she starts off calorie wise the important bit is to find the maintenence number.



I think your stating the obvious and I didn't feel I needed to. I think even the most uneducated person in terms of dieting would know that healthy foods generally equal a healthy body (obviously in the right moderation).

I did point out the percentages of protein/carbs/fats she should take, although that to can be adjusted.

I will stand by my point that fats can come from anywhere though as long as you stick to your macro number. Healthy fats (nuts, avacado etc) are ideal, but a chocolate will do the trick if nothing else is available.

As for weight loss, your right it won't necessarily be linear, but it can be close to if your tracking properly. Only when you get to low bodyfat percentages does it become difficult to do that. That's when your going to hit plateau's and you have to get creative.

I can quite easily decide whether I want to lose say 0-2 lbs in a week or 2-4lbs (just an example).

So what about veggies etc? Would you count them in with the carbs etc or add them as extras?

I am totally struggling to even eat healthily. I have fibro, cfs and PCOS all of which hinder weight loss efforts and admittedly, I have recently 'given in' to it and have kinda thrown the towel in.

Take earlier, I was soooo tired due to my CFS and I 'needed' something sugary - And I know that was probably the worst thing to do but it was like my body was craving that hit!

I just have no idea where to start!!