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It wasn't !!!!!!....
I've sent you a PM0 -
I cant really offer you any advise , only to say I hope your "missing" items turn up...........Im like you I know exactly what ive got, where I put things, when I put them there , etc etc............
I expect lots of people lose stuff when they are moving home , and removal men probaly think you wont unpack for the next 6 months, and by that time you cant then pinpoint the removal men , well as youve just moved and your on the ball id suggest you sort it ASAP, id be fuming if it were me, good luck in finding your items ............0 -
sorry to hear about your missing items money, i had stuff stolen many many years ago when I moved out of army quarters after my 1st husbands death, I wasn't in any state to do my own packing so left it to the army to sort, (they use civilian personal)
when I finally got mine and my 2 year old sons belongings, a lot of my own personal stuff , not army issue , kettle, iron, tea set , bedding ,literally anything that wasn't army issue had been stolen but worst of all my little boys money box was one of the missing items ,
I never did get any of it back, hope you have more luck0 -
Mortgage-free for fourteen years!
Over £40,000 mis-sold PPI reclaimed0 -
I guess the replies boil down to = I was perfectly correct in thinking that many people don't unpack everything promptly and therefore wont realise until some time afterwards and then maybe not even be totally sure that the stuff hasn't gone astray some other way. The thieves are clearly relying on this.
I guess I've learnt the following things from this:
- read the small print in the form about exactly how long these firms give to put in a claim afterwards (clue - no they don't allow a reasonable amount of time to unpack - it might only be 7 days). In between all the sorting out the faults (both expected and unexpected) that you find in a new house/getting to know the neighbours/getting to know the neighbourhood/cleaning the house/etc you ARE somehow supposed to find the time to unpack literally every belonging you have and check for theft or damage:eek:
- don't give up hope of claiming from them if they try and use the small print to wriggle out of their responsibilities. If the insurance company won't pay, then the firm itself should do so
- don't believe that just because a firm is long-established and well-known that they won't employ thieves (ie as well as normal people)
- DO YOUR OWN PACKING. I used to be an advocate of throw money at them and get them to do it for you. Not now I'm not....
- if you do decide to get them to do the packing for you DO NOT let them draw you into conversation. It could be a distraction technique by one of them, whilst the other one "cases the joint" to see what they might like to steal and does so...
- if the foreman of the packers makes comments indicating "chip on shoulder" about people with more money than him be on "red alert" for possible theft from said people with more money (ie yourself).
- pack everything in your car with you that they might like to steal (ie not just valuables and "important" paperwork - but think like them - eg which "consumables" might you be glad of extra supplies of at Christmas - eg alcohol)
- don't think "They wouldn't be so stupid/self-destructive would they?". Oh yes....they would....
My estimation is that the firm itself will pay me the money they owe me for my stolen goods. I'm not betting on them sacking the thieves concerned....but, hopefully, there will be enough future customers complaining about this pair that at some point the "penny will drop" with this firm that this pair are causing trouble for them and they will eventually sack them and replace them with honest people.
Fingers crossed that the bosses in this firm have sense enough not to want their reputation trashed to Kingdom Come and will pay me what they owe me and that's the end of it....:cool:0 -
moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »I am 101% convinced unfortunately.
The items concerned were on the right-hand side of the 2nd shelf up in the top cupboard in my dining room. That's how well I knew where all my possessions were after I had finished pre-move decluttering. I knew exactly what else was on that shelf (ie items that wouldn't appeal to removal men) and all those items turned up okay, as did everything else in the cupboard and everything else in the house.
Yes I AM that meticulous.
I am awaiting response from the removal firm to my request to deal with this and I have told my estate agents what happened and the name of the firm concerned (ie because they doubtless have customers asking them to recommend a removal firm and I wouldn't wish this to happen to anyone else).
One way or another those men will regret this...
You are upset, as I would be, if something valuable has been lost but I think it is a big assumption to assume it is theft. There are many of us who thought things were missing only for them to turn up later.0 -
As stated though...I have unpacked absolutely everything and gone through it all with a "fine toothcomb" in case of "unconventional packing"....and I still don't have my missing possessions.0
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moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »Has anyone else had their packing done for them by their removal firm and found that they were "missing" any possessions when they came to unpack at the other end?
If so...what happened in your case? What was stolen and did you get reimbursed for it?
I suspect these men thought they could get away with this because many people probably don't finish their unpacking for months (if ever) after a move and by that time aren't too sure just what they should and shouldn't have anyway.
Yep, however I noticed after the 'week' you have to inspect all the boxes. It was nothing of any great value, but useful stuff that was irritating to find missing....and did hack me off as I gave them £30 tip to go get a beer afterwards.
I didn't mention it as out of the time and basically couldn't be bothered at the time as too much else to focus on.
Result is....i will never use them again, may pack myself if move again, and will never recommend them to anyone else and spread the word about them.
I also found that they don't give a cr*p how they pack things , all sorts of stuff was jumbled up so took ages to sort as no bl00dy order to any of it. And it wasn't a duff company and cost me £700 for the privilege. Plus they asked me to get them something for breakfast (which I did stupidly)......you live and learn I guess.
Karma will get them in the end if I don't manage to run any of them over at some point...lol.
Had it been anything expensive I would have acted....but just think about how much stuff those robbers get doing that job every day...they must be coining it in.Yep...still at it, working out how to retire early.:D....... Going to have to rethink that scenario as have been screwed over by the company. A work in progress.0 -
Could someone had taken it off the van when they were loading/unloading?
I also walked round my house (more than once) to check everything had been taken. I may have missed my bookcase still. It's amazing how the eye misses things that are/have become 'part of the furniture'!
I bought a new doormat which I left in my dining room along with a load of other new stuff I'd bought for my house - they didn't pack that, and I totally missed the fact they'd left it behind. I only knew they didn't 'steal' it and left it at my old house as my ex had to go round there and said my new doormat was on the doorstep! They thought it was a gift.
I still think whatever's missing will turn up! All this talk of 'distraction tecniques' or whatever don't sit well with me. I always chat with builders, removal men, etc. Honestly, it's more than their job's worth.
Jx2024 wins: *must start comping again!*0 -
There was certainly some "unconventional" packing and I wasn't best pleased at dirty things being thrown in with clean things and so I have to clean those things again unnecessarily (as far as I am concerned).
Re "payback" for them...well if "thoughts are things" those two guys will be wondering for the rest of their lives why they seem to have developed digestive problems and just cant get rid of them;):). I hope they feel as ill as they deserve to.
EDIT: I very much doubt the thief was a "passing stranger" in the event. The van was right outside my front door and I was trying to keep an eye on that too and certainly watching it closely at the time they went off to buy themselves a snack whilst packing.
I've often been surprised at just how thick some people are. I've certainly had someone I didn't know very well at all round for a "social call" years ago and realised the next day they had stolen my "real" jewellery. I expect they didn't bargain on the fact that I would find a way to get hold of their address and send the police round to visit them. I got the address, sent the police round and they handed my jewellery back to the police....thick as two short planks or what.....0
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