Vent - Sexism within schools - Boys & Earrings

Azari

k12479 wrote: »

I find you rather daft, generally.

I may not agree with everything you are saying but at least, generally, you are expressing yourself in an intelligent and articulate manner.

Just a pity that you have to spoil it by the sentence quoted.

If you think you were just returning like for like, read the section I quoted again and you will see that I was agreeing with you and the 'daft' in my comment applied to the things you were complaining about, not to you.

k12479

Azari wrote: »

Just a pity that you have to spoil it by the sentence quoted.

In the words of Money-Saving-King: All this coming from you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Azari wrote: »

You are displaying a severe lack of emotional (and general) intelligence...

Azari wrote: »

Either that or you have delusions of godhood.

Azari wrote: »

Who the hell are you to decide...

Azari wrote: »

One of the most inept cases...

Azari wrote: »

...I find all things you mention daft.

Azari wrote: »

...making up a set of stupid beliefs...is stupid beyond belief.

paulofessex

Must say that there are certainly some interesting comments in relation to my post, most of which have some good valid points and others, well let's just leave them at that, after all we are entitled to our own opinions.

The way forward for us is as we have always done, made our son aware of options available to him should he wish to persue it, this being looking at gaining the support of other students because as we know he is a small fish in a big pond and going it alone is quite frankly a waste of time and his concentration and efforts are better spent on his education.

To be honest, he will no doubt decide not to take it any further, and we are supportive of that also. You would be right in thinking that the one who is more peeved about the issue than him is us his parents, we have seen how teachers/schools appear to ride rough-shot over children including ours whilst even at primary school, some can forget that children should be able to have a voice and to provide the opportunity for a child to debate an issue, have their ideas heard even if their thinking/ideas are not practical. You find schools have a student voice type of set up, however it is my opinion that this is really a paper exercise in order to fulfil Ofsteds requirements.

Thank you all for your participation in this issue, am finding it very interesting to read others thoughts.

angelil

For precisely this reason, when rewriting our uniform policy this year our school stated that any student (boy or girl) may wear only one set of earring studs and that these must be worn in the earlobe (not higher up, on the tragus area etc). No other piercings are allowed at all.

itch_for_a_glitch

Chickabiddybex wrote: »

It saddens me how many people here think its wrong for a boy or man to have pierced ears yet its fine for a woman. Are we still in the dark ages? Please remember when women first started wearing trousers they were looked down on! We need to abolish inequality (both against men and women) and I can't think of a better place to start than in schools.

Then you should re-think, a school is where you go to learn, to prepare for life in the big bad world outside. One thing a kid needs to learn is to pick his/her battles i.e. know your going to win (with a statistically reasonable ezpectation) before you start.
Losing an argument with authority at school makes a kid centre of attention for a bit, and marks them out as a bit of a pain), losing an argument with authority in work is a very different kettle of fish. Most people who rock the boat get wet, even if they are 100% right.

scheming_gypsy

mikeandrach wrote: »

all earrings are girls earrings, or for !!!!!!, chavs, general morons usually called Dwayne, Craig or Darren etc. you know the type, whne they are 17 they will get a 1 litre corsa, lower the suspension and put a hair dryer in the boot to make it sound more powerful

mikeandrach wrote: »

JReacher1, I am not idiotic, I merely have a view that differs to yours, don't make such an idiotic comment

Yes you are.

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

When I did jury service, the barristers, clerks, tellers, judge and usher all wore black and wigs. This was so they all looked the same and we listened to their word, not their dress or look.

When I was in the RAF, we all dressed the same, not so we looked smart, so we were all treated as equals and respected for what we were.

When I was at school, we had a uniform and code. And we used safety pins in our ties to be rebellious, yet in the most, it was hidden by the jumper. This was so we were all treated the same.

So some upstart wants to wear what they consider and accessory. I have no objection to this, let him.

But it is not me who will be ridiculed by their peers.

Proc

Unfortunately "being right" and "doing the right thing" are often two very different things.

OP, yes technically you are in the right. I'm sure there is some kind of sexual discrimination in there somewhere.

Very noble cause. I love the people comparing historic sexism that truly degraded women to a pansy-child being discriminated against because he can't wear his chav-stud. When you've "won" this battle, (of which the most likely outcome is a blanket ban on jewelry for both sexes) your son is detested for spoiling everyone's fun, and you're generally viewed as a family of nitpicking dimwits by the school staff, where do you plan to go from there?

Who actually gains from this?

paulofessex

Like l said everyone has a right to their opinion, but please excuse me whilst l decline to be drawn into some peoples rather demeaning comments, clearly some do not have children and god forbid if they do, their children may not be able to be their true selves in front of their own parents without fearing being ridiculed.

sgun

If we were still living in 1992 there might be an argument for the wearing of earrings being a gender equality issue but we're not so just be happy that the school is preventing your son from making an enormous fashion faux-pas (in most parts of the UK, I don't know about Essex).