Vent - Sexism within schools - Boys & Earrings

arbroath_lass

somethingcorporate wrote: »

For all those suggesting this is sexism would you support the rights of boys to go to school in skirts?

Of course. I'm a woman who wears trousers most of the time. If I have the choice why shouldn't boys and men?

bob_bobson

Good schools usually have strict dress guidelines - you should support the school rather than your child's fashion whims.

Rev

bob_bobson wrote: »

Good schools usually have strict dress guidelines - you should support the school rather than your child's fashion whims.

But they should support the girls fashion whims?

no1catman

Rev wrote: »

But they should support the girls fashion whims?

Why - that's not their job. Indeed the opposite could be more appropriate.
As regards a boy wearing ear piercings - why!?
A girl, may want to do that, to enhance her attractiveness. Women do that - put make-up on, add jewellery for an added effect.
Why would as boy what to do that??

Perhaps in years to come, he'll thank them for it.

Rev

no1catman wrote: »

Why - that's not their job. Indeed the opposite could be more appropriate.
As regards a boy wearing ear piercings - why!?
A girl, may want to do that, to enhance her attractiveness. Women do that - put make-up on, add jewellery for an added effect.
Why would as boy what to do that??

Perhaps in years to come, he'll thank them for it.

If the girls are allowed to wear earrings then boys should be too. So it's about attractiveness for girls but a whim for boys??

I wanted my ears pieced so much when I was 12/13/14. Because all my friends had their pierced and it was the fashion. My mum told me not a chance until I was 18. By the time I was 18 I was over it and have never had them pierced. So it was clearly a whim.

Obviously op's son wanted his ear pierced. Likes how it looks. The same way a girl with her ear pierced does. That's why. He may think it adds to his appearance. He may make a lot of effort with his looks.

If its a-okay for girls to wear earrings. Then it's sexist to tell the boys they can't wear them.

qetu1357

k12479 wrote: »

Maybe, the purpose of these kinds of things is to instill some level of discipline so that the kids stand some chance of becoming employable one day. Earrings on men are inappropriate in many workplaces, as are having Nike swooshes carved into your hair. If people don't learn these basics in school, they probably never will.

Perhaps kids should learn the basics at home...............

qetu1357

bob_bobson wrote: »

Good schools usually have strict dress guidelines - you should support the school rather than your child's fashion whims.

this is indeed a fact. Schools where kids wear blazers out perform -on average - schools that don't.

Suggest it is the attitude rather than the clothes that make the difference.

mumps

Rev wrote: »

If the girls are allowed to wear earrings then boys should be too. So it's about attractiveness for girls but a whim for boys??

I wanted my ears pieced so much when I was 12/13/14. Because all my friends had their pierced and it was the fashion. My mum told me not a chance until I was 18. By the time I was 18 I was over it and have never had them pierced. So it was clearly a whim.

Obviously op's son wanted his ear pierced. Likes how it looks. The same way a girl with her ear pierced does. That's why. He may think it adds to his appearance. He may make a lot of effort with his looks.

If its a-okay for girls to wear earrings. Then it's sexist to tell the boys they can't wear them.

I'm glad I'm not the only mum to expect decisions about piercings to be made at 18. Why get a child's ears pierced? I saw a little girl being held down in a shop as she hysterically tried to stop her mother and a woman with a gun thing put holes in her ears. At one point I said I was going to phone social services. I had never seen anything so awful. I saw a doctor on TV, can't remember the programme, he had just treated a child who had her ears pierced and they had got infected. He said he had seen so many children suffering because of piercings and he viewed it as abuse.

I am also at an age when I look at my contemporaries and see the large ear lobes with big holes from years of wearing ear rings and I am so glad I never had mine done. I think droopy ears are very ageing, I wonder if people have plastic surgery to repair the damage? My mum was also of the view that children should not have holes made in their bodies and I am glad of it.

Oh dear just had a look and yes people do have plastic surgery to repair the damage from piercing. Making holes in your ears is one thing, having them trimmed and reshaped to stop the droopy look is something else. I think I will definitely give it a miss.

Rev

mumps wrote: »

I'm glad I'm not the only mum to expect decisions about piercings to be made at 18. Why get a child's ears pierced? I saw a little girl being held down in a shop as she hysterically tried to stop her mother and a woman with a gun thing put holes in her ears. At one point I said I was going to phone social services. I had never seen anything so awful. I saw a doctor on TV, can't remember the programme, he had just treated a child who had her ears pierced and they had got infected. He said he had seen so many children suffering because of piercings and he viewed it as abuse.

I am also at an age when I look at my contemporaries and see the large ear lobes with big holes from years of wearing ear rings and I am so glad I never had mine done. I think droopy ears are very ageing, I wonder if people have plastic surgery to repair the damage? My mum was also of the view that children should not have holes made in their bodies and I am glad of it.

Oh dear just had a look and yes people do have plastic surgery to repair the damage from piercing. Making holes in your ears is one thing, having them trimmed and reshaped to stop the droopy look is something else. I think I will definitely give it a miss.

I do now actually thank my Mum for that. At the time I hated her of course.

I'm astonished to see babies with ear piercing's. some if my friends have had their daughters ears done at 6 months. And usually at a Claire's. where they have half a days training and don't sterilise the equipment. There's no autoclave. The gun is unsterilised and the most painful way to pierce. It's barbaric. If they must insist on poking holes in their kids at least go to someone with training and the right, clean equipment.

Exile_geordie

Azari wrote: »

If you had actually read the thread properly you would see that I have said right from the beginning: "There may be some loophole that they are relying on."

So I was clearly indicating that I did not know it all.

And I have effectively responded - even if I didn't necessarily quote that post - by pointing out that the website is:

a) Only offering an opinion.
b) Admits that the outcome of a legal challenge is 'uncertain'.
c) Contradicts itself.

Also, someone else pointed out the site is out of date.

It was, nonetheless an interesting and useful addition to the discussion, posted by someone who has been more interested in sensible debate than the cheap point scoring you seem to favour.

Blah blah blah.


Anyway they didnt ban me from me prince albert when I was at school. I flashed it about enough too