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  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    I am 48 and because I dont look like complete physical wreck etc I get the same abuse, esp from other disabled BB users who are sometimes so over weight they cant move properly, eating burgers and smoking.......I just have to let it go over my head


    While I would agree that people shouldn't take that view with you for an invisible illness, you don't know that they themselves don't also suffer from an invisible illness and that's the reason they get their blue badge.

    As my mobility has got worse (I'm not disabled) and stopped smoking, I've put on weight. It's extremely hard to lose when you can't exercise as you should. So maybe they have put on weight because of their disability, not disabled cos they are fat ;)
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  • nannytone_2
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    i almost had an accident today. an old dear with a walking stick decided to change direction when she was about a foot in fromt of me. i did bump her, but my PA stopped it being any worse than that.
    i got the usual 'why don't you look where you are going', but i cant be bothered rising to it .
    my point being, that many people with disabilities dont seem to even consider that a person who can walk could possibly have an impairment.
    evem if i could see, it would still have been extremely rude for the lady ri cut in front of me at such close proximity.
    but she seemed to think that because she needed to use a stick, then everyone should 'make way' for her.
    its not only the attitudes of some non disabled people that need changing
  • Morglin
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    Indie_Kid wrote: »
    And where would you put the chair? I'm sure many don't fold. Certainly not the extent that prams can.

    Part of the problem with prams is the size of them. No-one needs a pram that big.


    No, well, that's what I meant - wheelchair users cannot do as buggy owners can do, which is to fold the buggy, and transfer the child to a seat.

    My manual does fold, but as you say, it's the practical and physical issues around even attempting it, which would make it impossible.

    To be honest, if my mobility is that bad, I stick to either our car, or use my taxi card - much less hassle!

    Lin :)
    You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset. ;)
  • ab.da54
    ab.da54 Posts: 4,381 Forumite
    I was in a shopping centre once and a loud and particularly annoying brat was moaning about mummy not let him stay up till midnight on his play station and threw a tantrum (kid was about 7 btw) then he came rushing up to me demanding to know why I was in the chair and called me lazy and shouted "get up get up you lazy woman" whilst his drippy idiot mum looked on.

    There was no way I was gonna let this little brat get away with it so I said just as loudly .. This is what happens when you spend too long on the play station. Brat started crying immediately and ran up yo mummy clutching her leg and pointing at me whilst I wheeled off chuckling to myself !

    A 7 year old said/did all this?
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  • malebolge
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    Indie_Kid wrote: »
    I would hope that disabled people would be more understanding on invisible disabilities, etc. But clearly not.:( Did once have a disabled person tell me there's nothing wrong with me. Yes, because of course you can see depression, IBS, brain injuries and visual impairment.:mad:
    I agree with you that disabled people who have 'visible' disabilities, such as myself, should not forget that people can have invisible disabilities. I don't think the BB helps with not having the photo shown on the upside.

    It's a sad fact that up to one fifth of the 2.62 million BBs are being misused (Dept Transport stats 2013). The Blue Badge is for mobility, and while I do understand there are mobility issues that are less visible, it does make one suspicious when one sees someone who seems to be totally fit & healthy jumping out of a car and walking perfectly normally. For example, last week I waited ages in my local Sainsburys for a disabled space. Then a young woman wearing very high stilettoes ran up to one of the occupied spaces and was followed by her partner who was also running. Both were carrying boxes of lager that could not have been light. Now call me cynical, but anyone who can run carrying heavy goods for that distance doesn't really seem to be in need of a badge.
    Another occasion that sticks in my mind is a couple of years ago when everywhere had bad snow. I needed some essentials and thought I'd risk going to Asda. The thing that worried me was if I couldn't get a disabled space. When I arrived, I was surprised to find that there were loads of spaces. A woman in a uniform (not asda's, the parking firm's) asked me politely if she could have a look at my badge. No problem. She said that they were doing it to make sure that genuinely disabled people could park near. She also said that it was amazing how many people drove off, and how many spaces were not being used, once it was clear badges were being checked.
    Perhaps if the photo had to be on the front of the BB, it might dissuade people from misusing badges so much.
    I'm not saying there's any excuse for rudeness, or for someone such as me who is wheelchair bound to feel in any way more 'entitled'; it's the people who misuse badges that cause suspicion and sadly it's people with less obvious disabilities who suffer.
  • Indie_Kid
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    malebolge wrote: »
    For example, last week I waited ages in my local Sainsburys for a disabled space. Then a young woman wearing very high stilettoes ran up to one of the occupied spaces and was followed by her partner who was also running. Both were carrying boxes of lager that could not have been light. Now call me cynical, but anyone who can run carrying heavy goods for that distance doesn't really seem to be in need of a badge.

    One of them could have epilepsy, which for those where it's difficult control, they could be entitled to a blue badge and there are other invisile disabilities which may mean BB entitlement which may not affect their ability to walk.
    Most kids in buggies do not have a NEED to be in it and could probably exit it and transfer to a seat easily.

    But you don't know that just looking at them.
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  • Morglin
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    malebolge wrote: »
    I agree with you that disabled people who have 'visible' disabilities, such as myself, should not forget that people can have invisible disabilities. I don't think the BB helps with not having the photo shown on the upside.

    It's a sad fact that up to one fifth of the 2.62 million BBs are being misused (Dept Transport stats 2013). The Blue Badge is for mobility, and while I do understand there are mobility issues that are less visible, it does make one suspicious when one sees someone who seems to be totally fit & healthy jumping out of a car and walking perfectly normally. For example, last week I waited ages in my local Sainsburys for a disabled space. Then a young woman wearing very high stilettoes ran up to one of the occupied spaces and was followed by her partner who was also running. Both were carrying boxes of lager that could not have been light. Now call me cynical, but anyone who can run carrying heavy goods for that distance doesn't really seem to be in need of a badge.
    Another occasion that sticks in my mind is a couple of years ago when everywhere had bad snow. I needed some essentials and thought I'd risk going to Asda. The thing that worried me was if I couldn't get a disabled space. When I arrived, I was surprised to find that there were loads of spaces. A woman in a uniform (not asda's, the parking firm's) asked me politely if she could have a look at my badge. No problem. She said that they were doing it to make sure that genuinely disabled people could park near. She also said that it was amazing how many people drove off, and how many spaces were not being used, once it was clear badges were being checked.
    Perhaps if the photo had to be on the front of the BB, it might dissuade people from misusing badges so much.
    I'm not saying there's any excuse for rudeness, or for someone such as me who is wheelchair bound to feel in any way more 'entitled'; it's the people who misuse badges that cause suspicion and sadly it's people with less obvious disabilities who suffer.


    In our local Asda's, the mother and child spaces are nearer to the entrance then the disabled bays.:wall:

    When I queried this, they just said to park, in the M&C bays, and stick the badge up, as it had been some sort of design error, and that's what they were telling customers to do.

    Lin :)
    You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset. ;)
  • ab.da54 wrote: »
    A 7 year old said/did all this?

    Well I didn't ask for his birth certificate :rotfl: but yes that is what happened
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  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    Morglin wrote: »
    In our local Asda's, the mother and child spaces are nearer to the entrance then the disabled bays.:wall:

    When I queried this, they just said to park, in the M&C bays, and stick the badge up, as it had been some sort of design error, and that's what they were telling customers to do.

    Lin :)

    I've seen this happening in a lot of the newer stores. Even the new farmfoods in our town, the disabled spaces are further than the normal spaces. Madness :) Suppose that's where they've lowered the kerb though :rotfl:
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j
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