Kia Rio MPG

scaredofdebt

Hi,

I'm considering the Kia Rio '1' 1.1 CRDi 74bhp 6-speed manual ISG (from the manufacturers website) as it claims to average 88 MPG.

I do around 25-30k miles per year and this would save me in the region of £180 a month in fuel alone.

1. Is this figure any where near realistic? Any owners out there can verify it? I am going to take one for an extended test drive soon to see what I can get out of it.

2. If I buy a nearly new one, does the warranty still apply?

I know it's a small car for the miles I do but I've driven much worse!

Current car is starting to get into the realms of needing expensive repairs so I think it's time to get rid.

Cheers

Tiexen

According to Honest John its 57.5 mpg average

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/kia/rio-2011

But I don't think I'd like to do 25k in a 1.1: - 0-60 mph 14.9 s

OddballJamie

Is it even worth changing cars to save £180 a year?

motorguy

scaredofdebt wrote: »

Hi,

I'm considering the Kia Rio '1' 1.1 CRDi 74bhp 6-speed manual ISG (from the manufacturers website) as it claims to average 88 MPG.

I do around 25-30k miles per year and this would save me in the region of £180 in fuel alone.

1. Is this figure any where near realistic? Any owners out there can verify it? I am going to take one for an extended test drive soon to see what I can get out of it.

2. If I buy a nearly new one, does the warranty still apply?

I know it's a small car for the miles I do but I've driven much worse!

Current car is starting to get into the realms of needing expensive repairs so I think it's time to get rid.

Cheers

Not so sure on the longevity of small cars with small diesel engines. Also, say you sell it at four years old, its going to have say 120,000 miles on it. Its going to be practically worthless.

I was in a similar position. Was driving a 2002 Fiat Marea TDI. I ended up going for a 9 month old Golf 1.6 TDI S 105BHP for £12,400. I drive it with economy in mind and i'm getting a real world 68mpg out of it even though the government figure is 62mpg. I'm doing approx 550-600 mile a week, all long runs.

My personal goal is to take it first to 100,000 miles, then if all is good to take it to 250,000 miles. If i bail out at 100,000 miles, then i've still got something desirable to sell that people are happy to buy with a bit of miles on it.

motorguy

OddballJamie wrote: »

Is it even worth changing cars to save £180 a year?

If thats his only motivation then no.

O/P, whats your current car, i assumed it was quite old, but tell us more about it?

alleycat`

I had a 53 plate 1.9TDI passat that would easily do 55mpg on a motorway slog and even more if you are not in a rush.

I don't think i'd be looking at a new, small car, with a tiny engine to thrash long distance mileage on.

I can't imagine it'd do you or the car much good at all.

scaredofdebt

OddballJamie wrote: »

Is it even worth changing cars to save £180 a year?

Per month, according to their figures, which seem rather inaccurate.

Not sure how they can get away with such figures, surely it's false advertising?

scaredofdebt

alleycat` wrote: »

I had a 53 plate 1.9TDI passat that would easily do 55mpg on a motorway slog and even more if you are not in a rush.

I don't think i'd be looking at a new, small car, with a tiny engine to thrash long distance mileage on.

I can't imagine it'd do you or the car much good at all.

I used to have a Mondeo 2.0 TDCi and commuted 150 miles per day in it, averaging 54 MPG. Fuel pump went at 203k miles and it had possibly damaged the injectors so that was time to get rid.

I now drive a 17 year old Pug 306 D and drive slightly fewer miles, but I don't really notice the difference, it's a bit noisier and there's no cruise control but no worries. Average 54 MPG in it........

I used to run a 1.2 petrol Nova when I was younger, that managed 220k miles before it was too expensive to repair. That did get thrashed as I was young and a bit silly back then, hardly ever got a service either. Maybe they don't make 'em like they used to?

flyingscotno1

scaredofdebt wrote: »

Per month, according to their figures, which seem rather inaccurate.

Not sure how they can get away with such figures, surely it's false advertising?

It's not false advertising. The car can no doubt do this figure but only in certain conditions which aren't reflective of real life. However all cars are tested to the same EU approved test.

scaredofdebt

motorguy wrote: »

Not so sure on the longevity of small cars with small diesel engines. Also, say you sell it at four years old, its going to have say 120,000 miles on it. Its going to be practically worthless.

I was in a similar position. Was driving a 2002 Fiat Marea TDI. I ended up going for a 9 month old Golf 1.6 TDI S 105BHP for £12,400. I drive it with economy in mind and i'm getting a real world 68mpg out of it even though the government figure is 62mpg. I'm doing approx 550-600 mile a week, all long runs.

My personal goal is to take it first to 100,000 miles, then if all is good to take it to 250,000 miles. If i bail out at 100,000 miles, then i've still got something desirable to sell that people are happy to buy with a bit of miles on it.

Residual value isn't an issue as we keep cars until they are not economically viable, if it did 100k then that would be a problem as I'd expect a modern diesel even with a small engine to get closer to 200k but that may no be realistic.

The story is that we are moving house soon and both my wife and my commute will double to around 70 miles a day each, plus I do a long run of around 140 miles (round trip) twice a week. We're moving to be nearer to my mum in law who needs care as she's got Alzheimers but she won't let the carers into the house, so it's either that or put her into a home.

So we currently spend ~£440 a month on fuel, that will increase to ~£740 a month when we've moved!

I run a 17 year old Pug 306D which returns 54 MPG but my wife has a Renault Grand Scenic that returns 33 MPG at best.

Assuming the Rio can average 80 MPG (10% worse than their published figures) we would save £180 a month in fuel alone by sharing the car, the person doing most miles that day would take the Kia. If you factor in Tax then it's more like £200 a month saving, that would more than pay for the finance on the car.

Then there's repairs, the Pug and Renault are now at the age where they are getting expensive to keep on the road, you'd hope a newish car would not have that expense for a couple of years or so.

The Renault is a 7 seater and we do occasionally need that many seat so the Pug would be traded in, not that I'd get a lot for it.

Break even figure is probably around 70 MPG, if it can't do that we're probably better sticking with what we've got until a major bill is due.

I've arranged a test drive for next week, they're letting me have the car for a couple of hours so I will see what I can get out of it.

scaredofdebt

flyingscotno1 wrote: »

It's not false advertising. The car can no doubt do this figure but only in certain conditions which aren't reflective of real life. However all cars are tested to the same EU approved test.

I believe they do the test on a rolling road, so it's false as the car doesn't actually move anywhere



Surely the test should be representative of "real life" as that's what most people have?

:rotfl: