Royal Mail privatisation... Would you?

Doshwaster

j0nathon2 wrote: »

It will also be free to implode, which it most likely will.

So you won't be investing then?

Maybe it will "implode" but for the foreseeable future there will still be a market for door to door deliveries and without any real competition they should still be able to make money.

As I said, I have my doubts about whether this is worth me investing in - I'll wait to read more information - and I'm not sure the whole thing is politically wise in the run-up to an election but I have no problems with the principle of it all.

C_Mababejive

Doshwaster wrote: »

If I already own part of RM why can't I sell my share? Where's my dividend?

I'm undecided on whether this is worth an investment but I have registered with HL for the prospectus when it becomes available. As far as I can see the future growth for the business must be dependent on overseas expansion in the same way the Deutsche Post bought DHL and became the biggest courier company in the world.

I do appreciate your point but may i expand on it and assert that the vast majority of citizens own nothing.

They dont even own the land upon which their home stands.

They are mere chattels of the state.

Why they cannot even come and go as they please without a licence from her Majesty.

The vast majority of people in this country are slaves though they do not know it and they are only tolerated due to the kindness and sufferance of Her Majesty and her government offices and because they may be useful if they take their place in the great capitalist machine to generate wealth for the few.

j0nathon2

Doshwaster wrote: »

So you won't be investing then?

What gave you that impression :eek:

Actually I disagree with the privatisation of anything, because profit (and excess profit to appropriate to share holders in specific) is the main goal and not quality of service.

What I would be interested in if I was to invest: the services Royal Mail have to perform now, that is take mail from the likes of TNT and do the important bit of delivering it for a small fee, is this set to continue forever or can they at some point stop that and force the likes of TNT to deliver themselves (which I know they do in some areas).

custardy

j0nathon2 wrote: »

What gave you that impression :eek:

Actually I disagree with the privatisation of anything, because profit (and excess profit to appropriate to share holders in specific) is the main goal and not quality of service.

What I would be interested in if I was to invest: the services Royal Mail have to perform now, that is take mail from the likes of TNT and do the important bit of delivering it for a small fee, is this set to continue forever or can they at some point stop that and force the likes of TNT to deliver themselves (which I know they do in some areas).

surely the end goal is for everyone to deliver?
it wont happen and I have no idea how they will work it out
If the Post Offices are public,who pays who to collect the mail from them?
Is that a different company from those sorting mail in mail centres?
who delivers/transports that mail?
who does the delivery? and who pays who?

Glen_Clark

atush wrote: »

I live on an island, and get a lot of internet shopping. Most of it comes by royal mail, not by a courier.

How is that a reason to invest? Thats the Royal Mails biggest problem - small deliveries to remote places are unprofitable. The other couriers can pick and choose where they deliver to. Royal Mail has to go everywhere in the UK whether its profitable or not.

Glen_Clark

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

do keep up ... surveillance is all about the internet nowdays

Well I doubt if they have given up opening our letters as well

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

you could try bribing (Patrick Mercer MP OBE) to oppose privatization.

That sounds more believable

atush

Glen_Clark wrote: »

How is that a reason to invest? Thats the Royal Mails biggest problem - small deliveries to remote places are unprofitable. The other couriers can pick and choose where they deliver to. Royal Mail has to go everywhere in the UK whether its profitable or not.

Wrong, there Is a LOT of mail going both ways. They aren't small deliveries, I actually know my local postman. They run full out. I also sell via amazon.

The other couriers overprice a place that doesn't have a 100% commitment. And therefore they (and the sellers that use couriers only) lose out as they price themsleves out of the competition by hiking a delivery fee from 3 (or free) to 15-30 quid for one item. We were never into a -% recession, and although unemployment rose- it did not rise very high.

there is money to be made and you are wise to piggyback on the normal mail.

grizzly1911

I wonder how much public money will be used to subsidise deliveries to "remote" locations underpinning the private sector.

I am not a fan of utilities being in private control but it would be an interesting experiment to deregulate it completely and leave it to the free market and see what the outcome would be.

latecomer

If it was deregulated completely then the rural areas would be charged huge amounts comparatively for sending and receiving mail/packages.

In built up areas it would probably encourage competition as does anything that can be profitable.

mike88

In a competitive environment I am doubtful that Royal Mail will prosper. Their workforce are paid more and receive better terms and conditions than their competitors so how can they compete? I won't be buying any shares.