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  • dancingfairy
    dancingfairy Posts: 9,069 Forumite
    Sending you my best wishes. I hope 2016 is kinder to you.
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  • missile
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    Wishing you and yours a merry Christmas and a better new year XXX
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  • Have a lovely Christmas Nana. It's good to know that you are doing ok.
  • NANANINANOONOO
    NANANINANOONOO Posts: 140 Forumite
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    edited 11 December 2015 at 7:36PM
    Well I thought I had begun to put this behind me but maybe I spoke too soon :0(

    Having not seen or heard from any of my wider family members on dads side since his funeral has been dissapointing but I think it was all somewhat of an elephant in the room for many of them. The consolation of not seeing anyone has been at least it stopped me wondering what they know or feel and has allowed me to bury my feelings without visual reminders tormenting me.

    The thoughtful caring wishes relayed on here have always lifted me, I am eternally grateful for a place to share my feelings & apologise that circumstances have caused this thread to stray off its initial cause.

    Ironically today I took a step back (& fear it will not be the last over this Christmas) because thismorning I got a Christmas card from a cousin on my late mums side, whose family members were not made aware of what dad went through simply because of distance & our contact being mainly xmas cards etc. In her card she mentions she has received a card from my brother & an apparant new partner which she is querying.

    Clearly my brother must have moved on to a new chapter in his life...I do not & will not know details about this but will now have to explain details of last years events to my cousin & others so they know my brother & I are estranged & why.

    I confess to sadly feeling bitter, the anger & heartache has welled inside me again - I have a vision of all being fine in my brothers world - where is this karma people talk of ?


    I hate these feelings, it hurts so bad. It seems the non-closure of everything for dad will shadow me forever :0( xxx
  • Can you send people a link to this thread? It describes things so well, and I'm sure people would understand why you don't want to relive it all. Enormous hugs and all the very best in remembering happy memories of your dad this Christmas xxxxx
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  • Voyager2002
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    Well I thought I had begun to put this behind me but maybe I spoke too soon :0(


    SNIP

    Clearly my brother must have moved on to a new chapter in his life...I do not & will not know details about this but will now have to explain details of last years events to my cousin & others so they know my brother & I are estranged & why.

    I confess to sadly feeling bitter, the anger & heartache has welled inside me again - I have a vision of all being fine in my brothers world - where is this karma people talk of ?


    I hate these feelings, it hurts so bad. It seems the non-closure of everything for dad will shadow me forever :0( xxx

    I am sorry that some of your hurt and anger is coming to the surface again, and hope that this will in time prove to be a necessary part of the healing process.

    You simply do not know what is going on in your brother's life, and probably it would not help you to know if he was suffering (much as he deserves to do). Traditional ideas about karma are that the consequences of evil (or good) actions are felt over the course of many lifetimes, not just a few months.

    For now, I hope that you will be able to concentrate on yourself and on those people who continue to be important to you. I hope that some of the Christmas message of peace will be come real to you.
  • There have been times where a "culprit" has been "on the scene" for long enough after whatever Wrong they did to be able to see karma in action.

    What I have noticed from these cases is that karma probably doesn't pop up and "repay" the person concerned the following week, the following month or even the following year. It bides its time a bit and then several years down the line it usually pops up and you see it in action against the wrongdoer.

    From what I can see - the bill seems to come up for payment so to say within a 5 year time span anyway. I have seen instances where it came up a few decades later.

    So "wheels grinding slow" but they do seem to carry on "grinding" until accounts have been settled from those instances I have seen.

    So - if it's any consolation I expect your brother will "have that bill to pay" at some point over the next few years in his life in all likelihood.

    Wishing you Peace for Christmas.
  • pvt
    pvt Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    Can you send people a link to this thread? It describes things so well.....

    It would bring Christmas cheer to think that your Brother's new partner was provided with a link to this thread too...

    :)
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  • It is the case that brother has probably picked someone like himself as a partner and they would think "So what?" about knowing this about him.

    On the other hand - they may be a pretty decent sort of person and be living in ignorance of what he is like. In that case - it would be doing them a favour, I would say, for them to become aware of his nature sooner rather than later.
  • imho
    imho Posts: 2,515 Forumite
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    I don't think everything is fine in your brothers life as seems his wife/partner probably dumped him and his sons might not be talking to him so maybe a bit of payback to him. His new partner will soon wise up to his spending habits I hope.
    I hope the memories of this mess fade for Nano in time. X
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