Neighbour parked on my drive - any advice?

Jamie_Carter

Sheepstar wrote: »

I don't think a fire engine could get up the track. I've seen an ambulance get through, though.

The road out the front is about 15ft lower than the houses, there's only a steep set of stairs. Hence the parking being at the rear,

If there was a fire, I presume the fire service would stop in the road out the front as a fire engine can block a road, then have to carry their equipment in by hand.

Makes you wonder how a property on such a small and inaccessible piece of land ever got permission to become a care home...

If delivery trucks can get down the road, then a fire engine can.

The fact that it is a business that causes obstruction for the fire service to reach a car or garage fire at the rear of the property could make a difference. Especially if it is their staffs parked vehicles that are causing an obstruction.

Jamie_Carter

Jack_Regan wrote: »

Why are you so obsessed about a fire engine getting down?

The alley doesn't go anywhere and there is a road at the front.

Because if they could get down the road without the cars being parked there, then they are causing an obstruction. So the fire service could take action, as it is a business that would need to consider this in a risk assessment.

Joe_Horner

alcot33uk wrote: »

They wont refuse... they will be a business, they have no option but to agree to a meeting.

You probably don't know many owners of small local care homes, do you?

Jack_Regan

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Because if they could get down the road without the cars being parked there, then they are causing an obstruction. So the fire service could take action, as it is a business that would need to consider this in a risk assessment.

They can't get down without cars parked there as it doesn't go anywhere.

Sheepstar

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Because if they could get down the road without the cars being parked there, then they are causing an obstruction. So the fire service could take action, as it is a business that would need to consider this in a risk assessment.

I really think the track is too narrow for a fire engine. A transit van, yes, but a box van or fire truck would be too wide. When we moved in the removal truck couldn't get along the track, so they had to park out the front, block the road (oops) and carry the boxes up the front steps. (Yes, we did tip them )

It's a good point though, I've no idea how they'd help me if my garage was on fire. Park out the front and trail hoses down the garden, I suppose.

ANYHOO, there have been lots of suggestions on this thread, so I will discuss with my neighbours and see what they want to do collectively.

I've already ordered some "no parking" signs and although they will be ignored, I feel I must do all I can to resolve this civilly.

Thanks again to everyone who's contributed, I appreciate everyone's time and trouble to respond

vaio

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Double check the deeds - usually such clauses specify "for access". If they have no need to enter your property for access to somewhere they're entitled to be then the deeds won't normally give them carte blanche authority to do so.

worth a check but we have similar and ours says "......at all times and for all purposes....."

mattyprice4004

alcot33uk wrote: »

They wont refuse... they will be a business, they have no option but to agree to a meeting.

I'll have some of what you're smoking please.

Back in the real world however, they don't have to hold a meeting.
I'll ring Microsoft tomorrow and tell them they have to have a meeting and must invite me, because they're a business.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

TBH i would see what the conditions are in his planning permission about parking, if he's in breach then request to see the planning officer and show evidence of the breach, and explain youve approached the manager on several occasions with no remedy to the problem, if there enough complaints the the council will visit the site and risk assess it again then enforce the planning terms upon the carehome owner.

in the mean time you your good resident neighbours gettogether yourselfs, and have a rigid plan in place on photographing cars parked in eachother drives and the fresh oil they leave with accurate time and date stamping to present to the council to give a btter spectrum of the problem someone maybe parked in yours 2 times a week but what about the others, it could work out that a car is illagally parked in one of your neighbours drive everyday, if i parked in my garage all the time except when needing to go streight back out, i would also seek to have a oil covered driveway as a result of the cars parking there to be resurfaced and present the care home with a percentage of the bill and ask other residents to do the same.

the carehome will start restricting people parking in driveways other than his when he has to faulk out money on maintenance of the track, have the council on his back and enforcing his planning conditions and the prospect of a license suspension to operate as a buisiness because of not conformaing to planning conditions.

DONT hold out for a meeting buisinesses wont partake in a meeting when they may end up with a contractural agreement that could restrict them more than their planning conditions or say somthing that could involve them into a hefty legal despute, you dont see pc world agreeing to a mediation meeting when a customers bring back a product and not honour soga or terms of warranty do you? they instruct solicitors to hide behind and do the leg work.

Jamie_Carter

Jack_Regan wrote: »

They can't get down without cars parked there as it doesn't go anywhere.

They can if a delivery truck can

Jamie_Carter

Sheepstar wrote: »

I really think the track is too narrow for a fire engine. A transit van, yes, but a box van or fire truck would be too wide. When we moved in the removal truck couldn't get along the track, so they had to park out the front, block the road (oops) and carry the boxes up the front steps. (Yes, we did tip them )

It's a good point though, I've no idea how they'd help me if my garage was on fire. Park out the front and trail hoses down the garden, I suppose.

ANYHOO, there have been lots of suggestions on this thread, so I will discuss with my neighbours and see what they want to do collectively.

I've already ordered some "no parking" signs and although they will be ignored, I feel I must do all I can to resolve this civilly.

Thanks again to everyone who's contributed, I appreciate everyone's time and trouble to respond

Most care homes will have some deliveries made by lorries. And you will also find that the fire service will push on through tighter gaps than most other drivers would.