Selling V5 without car

motorguy

mgdavid wrote: »

of course not for fraudulent use. The link you give explains why selling a V5 need not be illegal, it depends on the specific facts. For example if I have an old race car which came to me with no VIN or V5 etc, and need an identity for an HTP or VIF then finding a V5 for a very similar car and year is the solution. Car never goes near a public road (only on a trailer) and I have no intention of selling. No offence committed.

Fantastic.

Thats ok then. We should let this happen, if thats all that they're going to be used for. No harm done, eh?

Oh, no, hang on - you've overlooked something - what about the 99.99999% chance these identities will be used on ringers or stolen cars??

mgdavid

motorguy wrote: »

Fantastic.

Thats ok then. We should let this happen, if thats all that they're going to be used for. No harm done, eh?

Oh, no, hang on - you've overlooked something - what about the 99.99999% chance these identities will be used on ringers or stolen cars??

on Escort Mexicos and Minis? yeah, dozens of them nicked every week - not! And you overlook the obvious that if the ebay sales went ahead, and your theory is right, it would quickly lead plod to the tea-leaf wouldn't it.

rdwarr

mgdavid wrote: »

on Escort Mexicos and Minis? yeah, dozens of them nicked every week - not!

Have you any idea what an Escort Mexico is worth? The ringing kit is the incentive to steal one.

Weird_Nev

It's also the incentive to dress up a Mk1 as a mexico, slap the mexico VIN on it for authenticity, and rip off some unsuspecting buyer.
The bodies came out of the factory the same after all.


Gratuitous Mexico shot. Belongs to Alistair McRae.

mgdavid

Weird_Nev wrote: »

It's also the incentive to dress up a Mk1 as a mexico, slap the mexico VIN on it for authenticity, and rip off some unsuspecting buyer.
The bodies came out of the factory the same after all.


Gratuitous Mexico shot. Belongs to Alistair McRae.

yes that would be fraudulent.

BTW Nev I'm pleased to say you'll never make a crim, the V5 in question is for a Mk1 ;-)

Jack_Regan

mgdavid wrote: »

yes that would be fraudulent.

BTW Nev I'm pleased to say you'll never make a crim, the V5 in question is for a Mk1 ;-)

Attention to detail from the expert investigator.:rotfl:

Weird_Nev

Sadly i'm too young to really care for Escorts, be they mk1 or mk2.

I just thought people might appreciate the picture.

mgdavid

Weird_Nev wrote: »

Sadly i'm too young to really care for Escorts, be they mk1 or mk2.

I just thought people might appreciate the picture.

. I do!

motorguy

mgdavid wrote: »

yes that would be fraudulent.

Has the penny dropped then? A Mk1 Mexico could be worth upwards of £20-30,000. There are many 'replicas' around, simply add the identity of a "real" mexico and hey presto the value of your car quadruples.

Same with Minis. A mint Mini Cooper replica is worth half of what a genuine Cooper is worth. Add a £200 identity and away you go.

motorguy

mgdavid wrote: »

. I do!

Presumably then you 'care' enough that if you were to buy a mk1 Mexico, you'd want it to be the genuine article?