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Interfaith marriages-do they work?
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Torry_Quine wrote: »
I believe that as Christians we are all saints and don't like the idea that you become a 'Saint' after death because you 'healed' someone.
Same here. I believe in the 'communion of saints', the spiritual union between all Christians, past, present and future, and I believe that some of those Christians did/do/will do great things. However, I would not exalt one believer over another, nor do I believe in praying to past believers, nor asking them to pray for me.
This is, imo, one of those non-essential things that we can agree to differ on(AKA HRH_MUngo)
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The Bible tells Christians to be in the world & convert non believers.
How can people be converted if Christians are so insular?
I know several couples were a Christian has married a non believer & bought them to faith.
I am not insular? I don't think Torry is insular or he/she wouldn't be on this site talking to you or anyone else about her beliefs.
How can wanting to share your personal life and belief's with someone who believes similar, ensuring your children are brought up in harmony be classed as being insular? How can "insular" even be a word described here - there is no question of "only associating with Christians" just a comment on not wanting to marry a non-believer. There is a difference.
With friends I understand having a wide range of religions can be healthy, interesting and normal as I have. But inside marriage - no thanks.
I know of several couples where a Christian has married and non believer and influenced/convinced/pulled them away from church. You may then comment that either party - those that joined and those that fell away to be "brain washed" either way but it's not usually the case it is. It could be simply classed as disharmony - where one party caves. Not healthy in either situation.
I find it difficult sometimes to hear people saying that it's "intolerant" to not consider marrying someone who is a different faith. This is ridiculous to suggest that I have to pander to the whims of society, be "tolerant in it's eyes" and consider marrying outside of my faith.
My marriage will be of my choice, yes to someone of MY FAITH. but that's my choice isn't it - not yours or anyone else's. All marriages of difference, similarity etc is the choice of the intended parties..
But to lable someone who believes this as "staunch"..screams of an underlying ignorance from someone who hasn't read or understood the Bible. This by the way CH27 is not aimed at you - nor is the entire post here....but it's the view of many many many Christians that you haven't spoken to or who don't use MSE to read and reply.
They just simply follow the Bible and don't yolk themselves to an unbeliever - cause look at all the strife you get from even complete strangers for airing your views....:rotfl:
Sorry if this comes across as harsh, I am rushing this out on a work computer..:o:o:o - it's certainly not meant to be harsh in any way. I just find it frustrating when so called people tell me that "you can't rule out every non-christian man" - yes I can.. simple as that......I have very different views to a Hindu / Catholic etc and yes it would irk me if a partner is "not bothered"... but thats just me isn't it...“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent".0 -
seven-day-weekend wrote: »I agree with this. I think if you are serious about your faith and practise it, then I don't see how you could chose to get married to someone else of a different religion who also took it seriously who also wanted to practise their faith. It's what underpins your life, so how could you have the same direction to walk in? How could you even get close enough to even talk about marriage? You have not got the most important thing in your life in common, it's a recipe for disaster from the start.
I think if neither of you particularly cares about your faith it can work.
I have to say, that last comment is utter rubbish. As I said to Torry, my parents are both true to their religions, their personal beliefs are strong and have not been impeded by marrying another of a different faith. I think to hold such a view as yours (or Torry's or anyone else with the same view) is truly narrow minded.
And people wonder why I subscribe to no religion.
If you're so "true" to your faiths why are you not nuns or priests? Only then are you devoting your whole life to your religion.I have a simple philosophy:
Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches.
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Angelicdevil wrote: »I have to say, that last comment is utter rubbish. As I said to Torry, my parents are both true to their religions, their personal beliefs are strong and have not been impeded by marrying another of a different faith. I think to hold such a view as yours (or Torry's or anyone else with the same view) is truly narrow minded.
And people wonder why I subscribe to no religion.
If you're so "true" to your faiths why are you not nuns or priests? Only then are you devoting your whole life to your religion.
We are told to be in the world but not of it. Actually I think it can in many ways be harder to be a Christian with people in a normal mixed life than a life of seclusion. I also believe in the priesthood of all believers so I am already a priest.Lost my soulmate so life is empty.
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Torry_Quine wrote: »We are told to be in the world but not of it. Actually I think it can in many ways be harder to be a Christian with people in a normal mixed life than a life of seclusion. I also believe in the priesthood of all believers so I am already a priest.
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Angelicdevil wrote: »I have to say, that last comment is utter rubbish. As I said to Torry, my parents are both true to their religions, their personal beliefs are strong and have not been impeded by marrying another of a different faith. I think to hold such a view as yours (or Torry's or anyone else with the same view) is truly narrow minded.
And people wonder why I subscribe to no religion.
If you're so "true" to your faiths why are you not nuns or priests? Only then are you devoting your whole life to your religion.
I'm sure that there are happy marriages where one person's a right wing Tory and the other's Old Labour, however, I wouldn't want to be in that position!0 -
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All i am going to say is that the "Christians" on this thread have convinced me that my decision to remove myself from contact with "godly people" was a good one.
I do not do God. I live in the present and the future working to solve the problems and issues of today and the future.
Whilst I respect the past I think that using teachings and texts written hundreds and thousands of years ago to address now is barmy. That goes for religion, economic and political theories etc.
We need new thinking to address new issues.If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
I'm sure that there are happy marriages where one person's a right wing Tory and the other's Old Labour, however, I wouldn't want to be in that position!
There have been marriages in politics where one has been Tory and one labour haven't there?
DH's family were old labour, and my family are old Tory. DH and I are not perfectly politically aligned, though much closer than that. It makes for wonderful animated conversation and discussion.
My nightmare marriage would be one where their was no stimulating conversation or challenging my own ideological boundaries.0
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