Adult beat up teen in street

Person_one

TopQuark wrote: »

And isn't the age of criminal responsibility 10?

Yes, so this woman is well above it.

j.e.j.

TopQuark wrote: »

And isn't the age of criminal responsibility 10?

yes, I think it is.
the boys who killed the toddler James Bulger were (controversially) tried in an adult court.

TopQuark

poet123 wrote: »

I don't think you should have hit him and caused actual harm.

You say it was instinctive, but suppose he had been 11, or 9 would you still have lashed out? It worries me that to hit out to a child was your first reaction. Although I appreciate you were probably annoyed, but did you feel threatened or unsafe?

In a busy station I would probably have grabbed his collar and taken him to a station official/police.

Yes of course I felt unsafe, I'm a small young woman being kicked repeatedly by an adolescent male who was at least my size or bigger whilst his mate stood on laughing! Hence my gut reaction was to defend myself. If a smaller, younger child had done the same thing, I'd not have felt so threatened and would have likely done as you said and grabbed them by the coat or collar.

And he caused actual harm to me; I had cuts and bruises on my legs (I had bare legs at the time). He never did follow-up on his threat to come back and stab me though. I personally felt that he got what he deserved.

j.e.j.

I've just gone back and read post #33.

OMG.

This is the trouble. THEY can lash out, knowing they're officially 'just children' and that YOU'll be the wicked witch of the West if you fight back.

I think in some cases fighting back is just what needs to be done. We're bringing up a generation of young thugs who think they are untouchable. For their own sake they need to be taught that there are consequences to their actions and that they should treat other people as they would wish to be treated.

poet123

TopQuark wrote: »

Yes of course I felt unsafe, I'm a small young woman being kicked repeatedly by an adolescent male who was at least my size or bigger whilst his mate stood on laughing! Hence my gut reaction was to defend myself. If a smaller, younger child had done the same thing, I'd not have felt so threatened and would have likely done as you said and grabbed them by the coat or collar.

And he caused actual harm to me; I had cuts and bruises on my legs (I had bare legs at the time). He never did follow-up on his threat to come back and stab me though. I personally felt that he got what he deserved.

The thing is though that size is not always an indicator of age. Kids can be 6ft at 13 or 5ft, you have no real way of telling.

If you had been a parent reacting to a child in that manner regardless of any minor injuries, you would be deemed guilty of abuse.

whitewing

If I had witnessed it, then I would call the police (which may save the bereaved father from agonising himself over whether to or not.

zaksmum

It was down to the dad to call the police if he chose to do so. I think at the moment he has enough on his plate which may explain why he's hesitating. He just wants a quiet life without this lunatic woman waging a hate campaign against him and his family, which she undoubtedly would if the police were called.

The boy who was attacked can be cheeky and undoubtedly did use colourful language and may even have bullied the younger kid, but that's no excuse at all.

The woman who attacked him is a total thug who revels in being a hard case. Can fully understand anyone wanting to avoid getting on the wrong side of her.

Wywth

zaksmum wrote: »

40 year old woman visiting family in my road and told a 13 year old boy had taunted her 11 year old nephew, calling him four eyes as he wears glasses.

She had the 13 year old pointed out to her and launched a furious physical attack on him, kicking and punching him to the ground.

He had a tooth knocked out and suffered facial cuts and extensive bruising from where she kicked him in the ribs.

The boy's dad has recently been widowed and is trying to look after three kids on his own. He is very sad and weary at the moment. The 13 year old is a bit cheeky to some residents but fine with me.

The dad is considering calling the police as his son, though a teen, is still a child and this woman is 40.

What would you do?

I think the question we'd all like to know is what did you do?

From the post, it appears you stood back and watched the whole assault take place on this child, and then went to internet and posted all about it :cool:

What do MSE'ers think about that?

Wywth

zaksmum wrote: »

It was down to the dad to call the police if he chose to do so. I think at the moment he has enough on his plate which may explain why he's hesitating. He just wants a quiet life without this lunatic woman waging a hate campaign against him and his family, which she undoubtedly would if the police were called.

The boy who was attacked can be cheeky and undoubtedly did use colourful language and may even have bullied the younger kid, but that's no excuse at all.

The woman who attacked him is a total thug who revels in being a hard case. Can fully understand anyone wanting to avoid getting on the wrong side of her.

Sounds like a right chav estate you live on.
Let the researchers for Jeremy Kyle know I suggest ...

TopQuark

poet123 wrote: »

If you had been a parent reacting to a child in that manner regardless of any minor injuries, you would be deemed guilty of abuse.

Yes but I wasn't a parent, I was an innocent woman who was physically assaulted by a teenage thug in an unprovoked attack. I acted in self defence. If I hadn't of punched him to stop the attack, what else would he have done to me? Was I just supposed to allow myself to get beaten up, simply because he was a 'child' and I was an adult??