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Adult beat up teen in street

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  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    edited 22 August 2013 at 4:38PM
    j.e.j. wrote: »
    Oh, for goodness sake :mad:

    I'm not saying the woman was right to attack the teenager. I'm just saying there's cause and effect here.

    It's sad the teenager has lost a parent. Many young adults have, sadly. But they don't all go out picking on other kids and behaving like scumbags, and using it as an excuse, do they.

    He's 13, not 3!! He's old enough to take responsibility for what he does/did.

    That doesn't mean this nut-case woman was right to bash him. Her reaction was totally OTT and as I say she may well have some issues of her own, but he needs to take some responsibility for the situation, too. He's not the blameless little baby that some people on here are making him out to be.

    I doubt there is a parent alive that hasn't wanted to throttle (figure of speech) the bigger kid who picked on theirs, but most of us have more self control.

    You cannot, as an adult, go around showing kids that violence is acceptable. The idea surely is that the "bully" who very probably has emotional issues related to grief ( it would be surprising if he did not) realises, or is shown that his actions are unacceptable. What this woman did was the reverse.

    Yes, there is cause and effect; the effect should have been that the woman took the lad home to see what his parent had to say about the incident. Although tbh name calling is rife between kids who are often friends again in minutes. This woman clearly lost it and she is a danger to other kids who she believes have overstepped the mark, she could do worse next time if she is not made to be accountable.
  • j.e.j.
    j.e.j. Posts: 9,672 Forumite
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    Person_one wrote: »
    What a coincidence, another incident has the internet that shows that adults women are capable of acting bonkers and punching teenagers in public.


    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1744219-skateboarder-runs-into-child-angry-mom-punches-him-in-the-face?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t3

    I can't see anywhere in that article that gives the age of the skateboarder but even presuming he's a teenager you're hardly comparing like with like (as always!;))

    That's an irate mom getting overly defensive when her child got hit by a skateboard.

    Stupid situation, but hardly akin to the scenario in this thread.
  • Rowingirl
    Rowingirl Posts: 239 Forumite
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    zaksmum wrote: »
    She had the 13 year old pointed out to her and launched a furious physical attack on him, kicking and punching him to the ground. He had a tooth knocked out and suffered facial cuts and extensive bruising from where she kicked him in the ribs.

    Based on this call the police. This woman deliberately went out to assault a child; she didn't react in the heat of the moment. Even worse his bruised ribs suggest she kept up the attack after knocking him to the ground.
    The biscuit will only dare to be just a biscuit when it is with its true friend the potato. (Edward Monkton) :beer:
  • j.e.j.
    j.e.j. Posts: 9,672 Forumite
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    poet123 wrote: »
    I doubt there is a parent alive that hasn't wanted to throttle (figure of speech) the bigger kid who picked on theirs but most of us have more self control.

    You cannot as an adult go around showing kids that violence is acceptable.

    I couldn't agree more, the woman sounds totally aggro. You do get people like that, unfortunately. Whatever's happened, be it a one-off name-calling or a campaign of bullying, it's obviously set her off!

    I'd like to have been a fly on the wall, tbh.

    There's 2 schools of thought on here: 1) the 13 year old is a child and is blameless, (and j.e.j. is evil for thinking otherwise :rotfl:)

    and 2) the 13 year old is not a child, but a young adult, and while he didn't deserve that level of violence meted upon him by this nut-case of a woman, he must admit he did provoke the situation.
  • TopQuark
    TopQuark Posts: 451 Forumite
    j.e.j. wrote: »
    I can't see anywhere in that article that gives the age of the skateboarder but even presuming he's a teenager you're hardly comparing like with like (as always!;))

    That's an irate mom getting overly defensive when her child got hit by a skateboard.

    Stupid situation, but hardly akin to the scenario in this thread.

    Agree, pointless comparison. First its from the US and second, the skateboarder is described as 'professional', implying he is and adult not a child. Did the person who posted the link even read the article???
    Remember Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is usually the right one. :)

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  • rozmister
    rozmister Posts: 675 Forumite
    poet123 wrote: »
    I doubt there is a parent alive that hasn't wanted to throttle (figure of speech) the bigger kid who picked on theirs, but most of us have more self control.

    You cannot, as an adult, go around showing kids that violence is acceptable. The idea surely is that the "bully" who very probably has emotional issues related to grief ( it would be surprising if he did not) realises, or is shown that his actions are unacceptable. What this woman did was the reverse.

    Yes, there is cause and effect; the effect should have been that the woman took the lad home to see what his parent had to say about the incident. Although tbh name calling is rife between kids who are often friends again in minutes. This woman clearly lost it and she is a danger to other kids who she believes have overstepped the mark, she could do worse next time if she is not made to be accountable.

    Some kid ran home and told his dad my friend (a mum of four) and I (a grown woman) pointed a gun at him last night. Obviously we didn't we were watching out of the window because a kid had tried to egg the house and I think he got upset we were looking at him. His dad came round shouting and swearing and we explained the situation and he apologised. Kids are crazy with the things they say at times. It's up to adults to be rational and calm in these situations not add to the madness.
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    j.e.j. wrote: »
    I couldn't agree more, the woman sounds totally aggro. You do get people like that, unfortunately. Whatever's happened, be it a one-off name-calling or a campaign of bullying, it's obviously set her off!

    I'd like to have been a fly on the wall, tbh.

    There's 2 schools of thought on here: 1) the 13 year old is a child and is blameless, (and j.e.j. is evil for thinking otherwise :rotfl:)

    and 2) the 13 year old is not a child, but a young adult, and while he didn't deserve that level of violence meted upon him by this nut-case of a woman, he must admit he did provoke the situation.

    Whichever scenario is closest to the truth (and at 13 he is still a child imo) adults should not rise to provocation in the way she did. There is simply no excuse for it.
  • Person_one
    Person_one Posts: 28,884 Forumite
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    TopQuark wrote: »
    Agree, pointless comparison. First its from the US and second, the skateboarder is described as 'professional', implying he is and adult not a child. Did the person who posted the link even read the article???

    Not until after actually, I assumed wrongly there.

    I shared as it was a coincidence, and also because it shows that women are capable of being violent thugs without good reason, as j.e.j seems to be assuming the woman here must have had one.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    this isnt an assault, its actual bodily harm!
  • TopQuark
    TopQuark Posts: 451 Forumite
    poet123 wrote: »
    Whichever scenario is closest to the truth (and at 13 he is still a child imo) adults should not rise to provocation in the way she did. There is simply no excuse for it.

    What about in my situation in post #33? Should I just have stood there and got a kicking?
    Remember Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is usually the right one. :)

    32 and mortgage-free :D
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