4 years no pay rise. what action can employees take?

Southend1

GwylimT wrote: »

Impossible, what a load of rubbish, backed up by what, people who can't live without sky tv, holidays abroad and new cars every few years!

Come on then, show us a family budget for 2 adults and a child, where one of the adults is employed for 48 hours a week on £6.19 an hour and the other does not work.

Southend1

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Not in a capitalist world though I'm afraid!

The government should encourage companies to pay a living wage in return for a tax break on corporate tax IMO. Without doing the figures I would expect the government to then gain alot of this break back in terms of VAT etc.

No doubt its not workable for some reason but its an idea.

Yes I think you'll find the reason it's not workable is vested interests and a working class who don't feel able to stand up for themselves any more!

GwylimT

Southend1 wrote: »

Come on then, show us a family budget for 2 adults and a child, where one of the adults is employed for 48 hours a week on £6.19 an hour and the other does not work.

Wow, it appears I had a secret lover back then!!!!

ILW

Southend1 wrote: »

Don't take it personally. Many posters on this forum just come here to have a pop at someone. It makes them feel better about themselves. There are also a significant number of fairly right wing types who believe that anyone who doesn't own their own business or is employed below senior management level deserve nothing more than to eke out am existence on NMW.

If you feel you deserve a better deal (and let's face it your employer has probably put up prices year on year, and you can bet senior management pay has not stagnated), then your only real option is to get together with your colleagues and take collective action.

I haven't read the whole thread tbh as it seems to be mostly people commenting how outraged they are that you feel you deserve to earn a decent living, so I don't know if you are a union member or not but I would recommend joining, becoming active within your union and starting to organise around the issue of low pay/no pay increases.

You are showing a level of ignorance of current funding within the care sector. Most providers have had to cut their rates just to keep existing contracts.

Southend1

GwylimT wrote: »

Wow, it appears I had a secret lover back then!!!!

Ok, let's make it easier for you. One adult living alone, £6.19 p/h 48hrs per week.

Southend1

ILW wrote: »

You are showing a level of ignorance of current funding within the care sector. Most providers have had to cut their rates just to keep existing contracts.

I may be out of date but the figures I was looking at showed that over the seven years since 2003, spending on social care in England increased by 19 per cent in real terms.

Not sure how much this has changed in the 3 years since these figures came out?

elmccw

Actually minimum wage is not the problem.
It is the conditions that are applied to working
Zero hours contracts, no sick pay , no holidays, no stability.

If i had money I could start a decent union.

AP007

elmccw wrote: »

Actually minimum wage is not the problem.
It is the conditions that are applied to working
Zero hours contracts, no sick pay , no holidays, no stability.

If i had money I could start a decent union.

Southend1 can tell you all about unions........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

ILW

Southend1 wrote: »

I may be out of date but the figures I was looking at showed that over the seven years since 2003, spending on social care in England increased by 19 per cent in real terms.

Not sure how much this has changed in the 3 years since these figures came out?

Think you will find that spend per user hour has been virtually static.

tir21

AP007 wrote: »

It would be better than JSA

the hours are not as good though