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dori2o

liam8282 wrote: »

Ok so you dismiss my comment as absolute rubbish and propaganda, and dispute it with opposing absolute rubbish and propaganda.

As has already been mentioned, there are 500,000 job vacancies right now, if there are so many unemployed that want to work, why is there any job vacancy at all?

Thanks for proving the point I am making.

You spout all this rubbish about migrant workers being superior to British workers, Brit workers being Lazy etc etc, and when someone posts the opposite to your claims, you make noises about it being all propoganda.

Lets face it, British workers are no less able, and no less willing to work, just as not every eastern european is hereworking illegally or for less than the NMW.

As for the 500k jobs, what sector are all these jobs in? How many of them need specialist/training skills, how many are menial labor jobs? How many of these jobs actually exist and are not just fishing vacancies put up by agencies to tout for business? How many of these jobs want experienced applicants? How many of the jobseekers have that experience?

Just as you cannot say British workers are lazy, or Eastern Europeans are illegals, you cannot pigeon home every out of work person into each and every vacancy.

oldboy64

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Precisely, and there are also plenty of council and HA tenants that keep their homes and gardens in pristine condition. It's called pride!

Not that I go round council estates, but of the three that I have personal knowledge of, Langley, Middleton, Stanhope estate, Ashford, Kent and Chatham, Kent, it is like going into another world. I'm sorry but my experience says that these estates are the pits!

nannytone_2

oldboy64 wrote: »

Not that I go round council estates, but of the three that I have personal knowledge of, Langley, Middleton, Stanhope estate, Ashford, Kent and Chatham, Kent, it is like going into another world. I'm sorry but my experience says that these estates are the pits!

then you need to venture further afield!
i live in derbyshire and the market town that i live in is virtually 1 big social housing estate ( ex pit town)
it is in the tenancy agreements that all propertys are to be kept clean and in good decorative order and that gardens must be maintained and fences painted.
they may be small houses on the whole, but you wouldnt find a cleaner, tidier place to live even in the most exclusive areas!

pipkin71

indigowarrior wrote: »

The nearest bus stop was 20 minutes away (for a normal person) for me it would take an hour. I ended up having to spending a fortune on taxi's. Public transport isnt the be all and end all.

I live in a town and our nearest bus stop is maybe 7 - 8 minutes away, but it would take me around 40 minutes to get there.

I do use ring and ride, who charge 60p per journey but it isn't always reliable and I do spend a fortune on taxis when I am able to get out.

Brassedoff

schrodie wrote: »

There are also 973,000 Here 16 to 24 year olds unemployed not to mention the unemployed adults all chasing or trying to get these 500,000 jobs.

The maths isn't that complicated however someone should explain it to this tory toff who wouldn't know reality if it bit him in his privileged @rse! Here

Just because he is a bit of a burke, there's no need to get personal with him :rotfl:

I don't know if you have kids who are currently in that age range, but in our area on the country (which is not the London area), the only real unemployed are those by choice. Many want THAT job, rather than A job. I never got the job I spent years in University training for, neither has it panned that way in life. Others I know did not end up with THE job they believed get their masters would get them.

It should be about as margaretclare said was the way in the 1950's, they got a job, not the Job. You can move to THE job once in A job. At your expense, not mine (claiming benefit)

Brassedoff

dori2o wrote: »

Thats absolute garbage. Propaganda being peddled by the Tories and their mouthpieces to justify their purge on the most vulnerable in society.

The majority of eastern europeans are working for less than NMW and in conditions your wouldn't allow an animal to live in.

British employers won't hire Britisah workers as those employers don't want to play by the rules. They don't want to pay holidays pay, provide safe environments, or ensure they provide their employees with their statutory rights.

You are correct, totally. Sadly from experience of when I was in the Police and later in a manufacturing role, 95% of these employers all come from one set of incomers in the 1950's.

I Rembrandt one where the employment service did a brilliant job that we raided. Not one person was British or spoke a english. The employer himself was a child brought here in the 1950's from a former Viceroyalty! In that purge of the twenty or so that my unit was part of, everyone was ran by a non British owners, some paying less than £1.50 per hour.

No race intended, some British employers are poor. But in the instance of rag workers it was the case that many simply moved the family business from the sub-continent to the UK

schrodie

Brassedoff wrote: »

I Rembrandt one where the employment service did a brilliant job that we raided.

Wasn't Rembrandt an old Dutch Master!!!

Brassedoff

schrodie wrote: »

Wasn't Rembrandt an old Dutch Master!!!

That's the one (note to self, chuck the iPad out the window)

margaretclare

Oh great. I didn't mention immigration, disability, ESA or DLA. I confess to not having a master's degree in high economics, but no need to be so damned insulting. 'You didn't expect me to understand that'. I think you may have been responding to someone else rather than me - if so, you've got a bit confused, haven't you? I was simply making the point - referring to the TV programme which was about what happened in 1949 - that I had some claim to know a bit about what went on in those years, having been there.

schrodie

Brassedoff wrote: »

That's the one (note to self, chuck the iPad out the window)

Best place for the iPad!