Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

Generali

michaels wrote: »

What about IP logging - presumably what you really need to do is to buy a payg sim for cash whilst wearing dark glasses, top it up with cash (again buying the top up vouchers for cash at car boot sales and never switch it on whilst you are at home. Probably better be a micro sim too so you can swallow it if they come to arrest you.

The point is that they'd never even look for the message there let alone find it if it was a one-off.

Something more systematic would need something cleverer. A note written on a Rizla would do it. Or playing songs in a particular order on Spottify: Beatles (buy) then ABBA, The Pretenders, Pearl and Dean and The Libertines for buy APPL. Lots of ways to skin that cat.

It's why I don't buy all this stuff about the NSA tracking being about terrorists. Why would a terrorist use Gmail? You'd have to be an idiot.

Doozergirl

lostinrates wrote: »

I was half watching the horizons thing about a couple who bought a house I THINK we once linked to on the board??? It looked familiar anyway.

Any how, it was in York and they wanted to turn it into a hotel. Then credit crunch, horrid rows with national trust and the horrible impact of life.

It was a bad thing to watch on a down evening, that's all I'm saying.

They asked the woman a few times...would you buy it a gain and she didn't" want to say no. It, with a lot of other stuff, has made me feel very keenly, an escape plan and saleability is really important in our next plans for the house.

I'm so glad you mentioned this as I probably wouldn't have gone back to watch it. No one could possibly imagine what would enfold when they started filming.

What a fiercely strong woman to make it through all of that, although she visibly aged a great deal through it. She turned out to be the luckier one, though I guess she may even choose to have what she had through those dark days over what she has now.

What a fantastic piece of work by the film maker. It made fascinating viewing but I feel terrible that not only is it a true story, but that the story continues.

Ironically, halfway through, a surveyor turned up to value our place for the bank. DH forgot to tell me. She spent three days cleaning, My house is an absolute pig sty and there's me just sat watching tv with last night's wine glass half full on the coffee table in front of me!

Doozergirl

I'm not entirely sure what to do with myself after that.

chewmylegoff

Generali wrote: »

It's why I don't buy all this stuff about the NSA tracking being about terrorists. Why would a terrorist use Gmail? You'd have to be an idiot.

Some criminals are very clever and it is very difficult to catch them.

Others are completely stupid and get caught. The reality is that most prosecuting agencies focus most of their time and resources on the latter because you can actually win the cases.

Fortunately most 'footsoldier' terrorists appear to be really quite stupid (which is not all that surprising really as if someone can persuade you to blow yourself up your mind probably doesn't work properly). Presumably the ring leaders take rather more care and are therefore harder to catch.

lostinrates

Doozergirl wrote: »

I'm not entirely sure what to do with myself after that.

It was so etching wasn't it? I expected it to be a bit of nothing, whining really. And to be quite annoyed by it. I didn't expect to cry, or to hate the QC (who is now dead, I googled him) although I already hated the national trust who are well known as Bullies of the worst order in villages and rural environments, so doubted it would be any different in town (the national trust is actually a wonderful idea with some terrible practise IMO, )

It made me a bit.....'what the hell is it all for then?' About everything tbh. It upset me far more than our own frustrations but it has made me wonder how committed I feel to this. We do this in the expectation we have of our future, but were it the other way round, then I don't want to get left here alone.

Doozergirl

I was shocked by the National Trust! As if it isn't enough to be given the house in the first place, to try to claim the land in someone else's freehold, not just the right of use. It's not integral to what the public sees - visitors would only see it from the windows, but I think access is almost necessary for deliveries. The tenants parking was a bit more of a sticky subject, but the dispute had clearly rattled on forever. I think it's this house.
http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/treasurers-house-york/

The QC was vile, just read about him, he certainly had a career, but he was horrid and that is the only impression I have of him. A cantankerous old git.

It all ended a bit quickly, that was the only shame. But for a reason, I suppose.

GDB2222

PasturesNew wrote: »

Not overly keen, but I'd settle for this and £300 saved
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/S49884805/#/S89894261

Loads of colours in the drop down.

That's a comfy lying down and watching the telly sofa.

Although I'd go for two 2-seaters, rather than one 3-seater.

That's very practical, but Nikki's choice is very, very elegant.

lostinrates

Doozergirl wrote: »

I was shocked by the National Trust! As if it isn't enough to be given the house in the first place, to try to claim the land in someone else's freehold, not just the right of use. It's not integral to what the public sees - visitors would only see it from the windows, but I think access is almost necessary for deliveries. The tenants parking was a bit more of a sticky subject, but the dispute had clearly rattled on forever. I think it's this house.
http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/treasurers-house-york/

The QC was vile, just read about him, he certainly had a career, but he was horrid and that is the only impression I have of him. A cantankerous old git.

It all ended a bit quickly, that was the only shame. But for a reason, I suppose.

This is VERY TYPICAL of NT properties in my experience. I had a friend who was a land agent for them and her attitude after just a year had become so NT I just couldn't stand it anymore.

My family had a house neighbouring a NT property some years ago, on a very busy rural road, and at the time, two tiny tots and ponies.

To give an idea of the road, I once had an accident on that road where a bus caught my stirrup leather. Its not the kid of road one wants to keep toddlers on for any period of time. Anyway, the NT had a paved track of about four miles long and I asked if we could have licences (we'd pay legal fees) not for adults, but for leading the kids off road somewhere safe...so no galloping horses, no damage to grass, just little kids being lead along. They said absolutely no way and spent this out for two years. Then a life time NT member applied and got them in two weeks. They talk a lot about wispy washy welfare issues, and yet some of their tenant and licences land users operate appealing practise.

They are ALWAYS bullies about parking and road use. We had some filming in that village, for which the NT took payment and the whole village suffered disruption ( and had huge fun) but when an after filming party was suggested on the NT grounds the doors were closed behind the villagers PDQ. Its a funny group of people. People who have a very odd idea of 'class' how some people talk about it (maybe michaels and Generali have got close) but I have rarely seen outside that sort of circle actually trying to practise...and the irony is, the ones acting like that are not and never would have been in a position to make those sorts of decisions about properties like that originally.

michaels

lostinrates wrote: »

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Not sure if I have just been put in my place by one of my betters

However any understanding of how class in the upper echelons of society works on my part is very much as an outsider looking in, we have always bought all our furniture....

lostinrates

michaels wrote: »

Not sure if I have just been put in my place by one of my betters

However any understanding of how class in the upper echelons of society works on my part is very much as an outsider looking in, we have always bought all our furniture....

Not at all michaels, I'm not interested in putting anyone in any p,ace. (Not in this sort of context anyway and any other context would be between me between me and HDTV.....)that's rather my point. If I were I certainly wouldn't be at the top, my mother married down. as my sibling was want to remind me often. My experience is that a certain type of person is.....but its not who one expects to...but lots of them flock to that organisation.

Fwiw, my sibling and sibling in law are life members of the national trust:rotfl: they are rather status obcessed.:D

(Edit....maybe the same type were drawn to your parents posh house? Maybe that's why you have met more than me? I know lots of people who might fit into class stereotypes but most i have bothered with have been fairly meritocratically doing their own stuff......)


Edit.. Re reading my post it makes it sound like I am saying michaels and gen have got funny ideas about class, that's not what I was trying to say, but the way you talk of your experience of others conceptions of it is different to my first hand experience, so I presume both of you two have met more of these types in different contexts than I have! Is that clearer?