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Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues
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Most of our house is open plan, but the actual kitchen working area is is about 3m by 3.7m, plus the area you need to sit at the breakfast bar. I've wasted some space downstairs. There should be space for a utility but I've put the kitchen in the wrong place for it so I have a really stupid waste of space right in the middle.
The bathroom is small. We stole a bit of hallway to fit a proper bath in the corner so it's 1.8m wide at the bath but about 1.65m in the rest. It must only be 2.5m across but we have a separate shower. That's because we were able to position the door in the most sensible place.
The ensuite is the same length but it's awkwardly l-shaped where the stairs come up. I had a type of flying freehold built over the stairs, so the sink sits over them. Hard to describe but it's a clever use of space, (if I say so myself). Mucking around with stud walls is pretty cheap. We've gained an extra room here.
A lot of the time there's room for the things you want, it just takes some imagination. The examples in Ikea of using space like it's valuable are second to none. I always study new room sets. When you go, PN, that is your job
Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
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neverdespairgirl wrote: »Usually on the bottom of the floorplan? It'll say something like "gross internal area - 1,200 sq. ft".
Only if you're lucky, I'm afraid. Most EA don't bother putting measurements on floor plans, let alone the total area, except for more expensive properties. Some don't bother doing floor plans at all. It's lovely when they do make a proper floor plan with all the information, but I'm afraid it's only the more up-market EAs who do.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
Only if you're lucky, I'm afraid. Most EA don't bother putting measurements on floor plans, let alone the total area, except for more expensive properties. Some don't bother doing floor plans at all. It's lovely when they do make a proper floor plan with all the information, but I'm afraid it's only the more up-market EAs who do.
Over here we normally get a floor plan but then given the eye-watering prices we pay for EAs so we should! We should get sex with the owners' wives/husbands too for those rates.0 -
No, that is where I've got the figures from where they exist, but many don't have the figures showing.neverdespairgirl wrote: »Usually on the bottom of the floorplan? It'll say something like "gross internal area - 1,200 sq. ft".0 -
Doozergirl wrote: »
The ensuite is the same length but it's awkwardly l-shaped where the stairs come up. I had a type of flying freehold built over the stairs, so the sink sits over them. Hard to describe but it's a clever use of space, (if I say so myself). Mucking around with stud walls is pretty cheap. We've gained an extra room here.
Stud walls - like partitions? We had some put in here, to turn one huge upstairs room into a partially-open-plan kitchen, living room, and two very small studies, which is a much better use of space than the huge room was.Only if you're lucky, I'm afraid. Most EA don't bother putting measurements on floor plans, let alone the total area, except for more expensive properties. Some don't bother doing floor plans at all. It's lovely when they do make a proper floor plan with all the information, but I'm afraid it's only the more up-market EAs who do.
That must be a thing that varies according to which part of the country you are in, then - in central London, when we were looking, it was completely standard for floor plans to have the total area of the flat or house on them.Over here we normally get a floor plan but then given the eye-watering prices we pay for EAs so we should! We should get sex with the owners' wives/husbands too for those rates.
That would certainly add to overall domestic harmony in Australia........much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
For example, this is the cheapest 3 bed flat for sale in EC1 at the moment, and it has a floor plan showing measurements and total floor area (767 sq feet)
http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/30266254?search_identifier=98b397d5f998c11e85ab7895e04adb44...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »Stud walls - like partitions? We had some put in here, to turn one huge upstairs room into a partially-open-plan kitchen, living room, and two very small studies, which is a much better use of space than the huge room was.
That must be a thing that varies according to which part of the country you are in, then - in central London, when we were looking, it was completely standard for floor plans to have the total area of the flat or house on them.
That would certainly add to overall domestic harmony in Australia.....
Yes, partitions. It's nice if you have an open space to start with, as you can carve it up to suit you.
Londoners are spoilt with floorplans and square footage as standard. In outer Herts it's as PN and Lydia describe. If you're lucky you get those nice London type ones, but you're as likely to get something the EA's children created on paint. Not even to scale. Or nice ones with no square footage. Or, 50% of the the time, a blank space where the floorplan should be!
Tepilo (Sarah Beeny's sell it yourself website) has relaunched as an online EA complete with rightmove listing. I've got 50% off as an existing user which I'm seriously chuffed about. It means I can sell for £372.50 plus VAT including a floorplan, for sale board and premium RM listing. I'll use a local EPC man for about £60. I've already invested in an EA style wide angle lens used on the last two sales with EAs (sigh) and I've had it up to the hind teeth with EAs in general at the prices we pay.
How much is it in Australia?Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
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neverdespairgirl wrote: »For example, this is the cheapest 3 bed flat for sale in EC1 at the moment, and it has a floor plan showing measurements and total floor area (767 sq feet)
http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/30266254?search_identifier=98b397d5f998c11e85ab7895e04adb44
I think we have exactly that mirror thing they have. Maybe ours is narrower. Its been paired with a base it doesn't belong with certainly.
Only I have painted ours sort of sugarymint green.
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neverdespairgirl wrote: »For example, this is the cheapest 3 bed flat for sale in EC1 at the moment, and it has a floor plan showing measurements and total floor area (767 sq feet)
http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/30266254?search_identifier=98b397d5f998c11e85ab7895e04adb44
Cut the distance between there and Angel tube in half, directly as the crow flies and that's where Doozerboy is right now. I believe on his knees with a paintbrush Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
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One thing we spent money on when preparing to re-do our flat that was cheap at twice the price was having a kitchen designer do a design for our kitchen - she wasn't from a kitchen company, so listened very carefully to what we wanted, what we could spend, and came up with a design and kitchen manufacturer that really suited the flat, and is extremely useful, easy to use, and perfect for us....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0
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