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  • Enfieldian
    Enfieldian Posts: 2,893 Forumite
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    The new driver scheme allows him to drive with six points until the dvla revoke his licence,so he can drive home from court unaccompanied. There is nothing stopping him from having a ticket as he is not inline for disqualification.

    Wrong.

    A new driver cannot have 6 points on his/her licence. Please see the following link.

    https://www.gov.uk/penalty-points-endorsements/new-drivers
  • Enfieldian wrote: »
    Wrong.

    A new driver cannot have 6 points on his/her licence. Please see the following link.

    https://www.gov.uk/penalty-points-endorsements/new-drivers

    He can, revocation is not disqualification.

    The provisional will come back with six points on, he takes another test. The new full licence will have six points on. Should he get anymore within two years it all starts again.
  • Enfieldian
    Enfieldian Posts: 2,893 Forumite
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    I humbly stand corrected.

    It can take up to 5 days for the licence to be officially revoked and the 6 points will indeed carry over to the "new" provisional.
  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
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    He has Three choices,
    Cheapest :
    Plead guilty at the first opportunity, take his points, fine and court costs plus victim surcharge total costs of around £85+ fine and out he goes.
    Middle option:
    Plead not guilty, gets adjourned and scheduled for a full hearing in front of 3 upper magistrates and get the same plus £425 costs.
    Upper option:
    Plead guilty and request mitigations which again gets adjourn and costs around £425 if his mitigation is rejected he gets a much larger fine for failing to accept guilt.

    I would say take the lightest option all 3 will have the same outcome.
    Be happy...;)
  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,520 Forumite
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    The provisional will come back with six points on, he takes another test. The new full licence will have six points on. Should he get anymore within two years it all starts again.

    Passing the test again terminates the probationary period.
  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,576 Forumite
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    Should he get anymore within two years it all starts again.

    The new driver revocation only works once.
    Then the normal rules apply, get 12 points within 3 years and you are disqualified, he will have 6 already.

    (Not 100% how 12 in 3 years works, as they stay on for 4 years, so it reads like you can have 15 and keep your licence if the first 9 were more than 3 years ago and you get 6 points today for no insurance)
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,520 Forumite
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    facade wrote: »
    (Not 100% how 12 in 3 years works, as they stay on for 4 years, so it reads like you can have 15 and keep your licence if the first 9 were more than 3 years ago and you get 6 points today for no insurance)

    A later offence involving points can be committed during the validity of the 3 years, but the case may not be dealt with until after, but those points will still count as the date is from the date of the offence, so it is shown on the licence for 4 years.
  • Lum
    Lum Posts: 6,460 Forumite
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    My understanding that 6+ points in the first two years = automatic revocation, and you can go through the fixed penalty process, no courts, and still get this result.

    Upon passing your test again, you are still in that probationary period and ANY more points = revoked again.

    My suggestion: Your son is going to use his licence. If he gets it back, don't commit any more offences and he'll never have to find out who is correct.
  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,520 Forumite
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    Lum wrote: »
    Upon passing your test again, you are still in that probationary period and ANY more points = revoked again.

    No, a new driver's licence can only be revoked once, as soon as you pass your test after revocation, that terminates the probationary period.
  • Yes, I stand corrected.

    I was confusing it with points already on a provisional. If you have 3 or more points upon passing your test you can only pick up another 3.
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