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Propertyfan's guide to property viewers!
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I would only let proceedable viewers look round my property. It cuts out all the timewasters. Simple.
Hmmmmm.........that's all very well in theory Fraise, but most of the EAs I've encountered will totally disregard such an instruction from the vendor and send round any old buyer that's availableMortgage-free for fourteen years!
Over £40,000 mis-sold PPI reclaimed0 -
makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »Had sold in Reading. Tiny 3 bed, AP was £205k, we accepted £200. Moved quickly, no onward chain.
Bought 7-bed in Thanet for cash. AP £210k offered AP.
Like you, probably could have shaved £5k but didn't want to take the chance. Our circs are different in any case as we are well off.
Regards
We sold near Reading in 2011.....just along the A4 towards Maidenhead....but it was double the price of yours and we accepted a 6% reduction from asking price, however we had added 10% to our expected price.....so happy buyer 6% off asking and happy seller 6% off asking price when expecting 10%.
On our new house we got for 27% off asking.....keen seller who had to move for family reasons and had bought at the peak in 2007. Had a sale fall through when a valuation came in 10% below his asking price and he refused to negotiate the price with the buyer......by the time we bought it he was desperate to sell.
We did have a chain consisting of our buyer and their first time buyers....and we didn't need a mortgage but I wouldn't say we were cash buyers because we needed to sell our house to be able to buy the one we are now in.
Unlike you, I don't consider us to be well off - not to the extent where we would ignore the opportunity for a substantial reduction (about £90k) off the price of a house.0 -
We sold near Reading in 2011.....just along the A4 towards Maidenhead....but it was double the price of yours and we accepted a 6% reduction from asking price, however we had added 10% to our expected price.....so happy buyer 6% off asking and happy seller 6% off asking price when expecting 10%.
On our new house we got for 27% off asking.....keen seller who had to move for family reasons and had bought at the peak in 2007. Had a sale fall through when a valuation came in 10% below his asking price and he refused to negotiate the price with the buyer......by the time we bought it he was desperate to sell.
We did have a chain consisting of our buyer and their first time buyers....and we didn't need a mortgage but I wouldn't say we were cash buyers because we needed to sell our house to be able to buy the one we are now in.
Unlike you, I don't consider us to be well off - not to the extent where we would ignore the opportunity for a substantial reduction (about £90k) off the price of a house.
I can certainly see the value in your negotiation, which is massive. However most our wealth is tied up in shareholdings and cash, the latter if which we use to fund our lifestyle without ever having to work.
Who knows whats round the corner, and anything can change so now I prefer to enjoy my hobbies as some others do on mse.0 -
makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »No, it means you will always lose out on the best, in demand properties types. This might work for your crappy newbuilds.
Do you live in the NE by any chance?
Steady , steady , no need to get spiteful, the thread is not about whos got the best house on MSE.......0 -
makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »No, it means you will always lose out on the best, in demand properties types. This might work for your crappy newbuilds.
Do you live in the NE by any chance?
I think you're stuck in a property boom that's long since passed...
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Propertyfan wrote: »I, Propertyfan, am here to provide my guide to the mysterious world that is the property seller! Without further ado, here we go…
1) The “My cleaner is on holiday” seller
The “My cleaner is on holiday” seller is one that doesn’t think a tidy property has any bearing on its potential sale. How clean and tidy a place should be is highly subjective – one man’s library of books and antiques may be another man’s cluttered mess of ‘old stuff’ – however, it’s fair to conclude a property that looks like the vacuum cleaner has never touched the floor isn’t going to impress a prospective buyer. If you struggle to imagine what a room will look like without all the cluttered items, thick dust on shelves, heavy stained carpets, and windows so dirty you think it’s permanent night time, then the chances are you’re not going to make an offer on the property.
2) The ‘non-interested’ seller
The ‘non-interested’ seller will show little interest in wanting to sell/rent the property to you. The non-interested seller prefers to show people around his/her property without the assistance of an estate agent. They will escort you around the property and make strange noises like “err.. umm” and “yeah, I suppose so.” The non-interested seller is a master at uncomfortable pauses – those moments when dead air consume the property and the prospective buyer thinks he/she has met a serial killer. The non-interested seller does want to sell his/her property but his/her body language and general demeanour is so poor you would rather go on a blind date with some creepy person you found on Facebook than have any more dealings with the seller.
3) The ‘beware of the dog!’ seller
The ‘beware of the dog!’ seller is happy to let his beloved pet (cat, dog, snake, alligator etc) run riot around the property. These annoying (ahem… I mean lovable) animals will happily obstruct access to rooms and generally become the centre of attention. Beware of comments like “don’t worry, he/she doesn’t bite! “ – and “oh, go on, give him/her stroke.” Such comments usually result in a visit to the Accident Emergency ward of the local hospital.
4) The ‘beware of the kids!’ seller
The ‘beware of the kids! ’ seller is identical to number 3 above except you replace the dog barking or biting with some brattish kid making sarcastic comments or screaming a lot. Such scenarios usually end with the mother saying “if you don’t shut up I am gonna have a mental breakdown!” A variation of this scenario is the child prodding you or making annoying comments like “my daddy is richer than you.”
5) The ‘desperate to sell’ seller
The ‘desperate to sell’ seller will adopt an all-out attack approach to selling his property. He/she will make it clear the property has to be sold by yesterday. If the seller gives you the keys to the property as you leave, it’s probably a safe bet to say the vendor is a bit too keen.
6) The ‘there’s nothing wrong with my property’ seller
The ‘there’s nothing wrong with my property’ seller will convince you any major defects with the property are not a problem. The lack of a roof to his property – that’s just a skylight. The hole in the living room floor – an extra toilet. The property moving a little due to subsidence – merely the wind from outside. The one advantage of such a property is you might be able to barter with the vendor and get a reduced price. “100 quid and we got a deal!”
7) The ‘prejudiced’ seller
The prejudiced seller will take an immediate dislike to you based on your race, job, social class, income, car you arrive in to see the property, your accent, your clothes, your hairstyle, you choice of music etc. The prejudice seller wishes to sell to a certain type of individual – one that is preferably loaded and has a holiday home in Monaco. They may be swayed from their prejudice if you agree to the full market price of the property and promise to rename your children 'Endeavour' and 'Harmony'.
8) The ‘self opinionated’ seller
The ‘self opinionated’ seller will use the sale of his/her property as a means to self-aggrandisement. The seller will waffle on about his/her life, his/her achievements and generally bore you to tears. The best route to take is to nod your head, keep replying with a disingenuous “that’s impressive” and then mention you recently won Mastermind. That will put him/her in their place.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
I have come across everyone of those
but what about the drunken seller, this was the best house view we had , it was so funny,
we actually made an offer on this one :rotfl:no he didn't except but came back to us a few days later and we met him half way0 -
have come across everyone of those
but what about the drunken seller, this was the best house view we had , it was so funny,
we actually made an offer on this one no he didn't except but came back to us a few days later and we met him half way
Never buy a house from a seller under the influence of drugs, drink or daytime television.0 -
witchy1066 wrote: »:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
I have come across everyone of those
but what about the drunken seller, this was the best house view we had , it was so funny,
we actually made an offer on this one :rotfl:no he didn't except but came back to us a few days later and we met him half way
we had one of these too
The EA met us on the road outside and stage-whispered "The vendors have partaken of some Dutch courage... all afternoon by the look of them".
The vendors were very cheerful and hearty and were constantly in and out of the rooms we were viewing offering "helpful" advice...
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I once had an old cottage in Oxfordshire, it was thatched with thick stone walls. I can certainly add a few more types of viewers.
As I showed a couple around each room the wife would position herself up against a wall and start hyperventilating whilst her husband would pace up and down Basil Fawlty style. At one point I was in the upstairs bedroom with her hyperventilating whilst hubby I watched out of the window goose stepping up and down the garden.
The second couple were very pleasant. Our cottage was up for sale for £100k they offered us £15k because they had read somewhere that anyone selling a property was going bankrupt and they would take £15k to save themselves from bankruptcy (it was in the early 90's and we were moving because of work, my Oh was commuting 2 1/2 hours each way). We found out later they had been banned from estate agents in various towns in Oxfordshire.
Then there was the couple who after I had run round all day making the house absolutely spotless finished the tour with "oh thank you for showing us around your lovely home. We do like to have a day out looking at little cottages and then we have afternoon tea.... What sort of cakes do you have?"
And then there was the "lady" who came round who was a dead ringer for !!!!!! Emery's Hettie.
Equally I did view a modern house, only 9 months old so we assumed that there would not be a great deal to do, wouldn't need kitchen or bathroom. We arrived and knocked on the open front door, not that you could hear our knock for the noise from the music blaring. We ventured in to find the owner passed out drunk on the sofa amidst a sea of empty cans and bottles. He came to and told us to look round on our own. Every room needed replastering, there was holes in walls and ceilings, the doors were hanging off their hinges the bathroom needed replacing , broken basin, shower ripped from wall and cracks in base of toilet. Nearly fell down stairs because of the 6inch nails sticking up from the 5 bits of different coloured carpet that covered the stairs. The kitchen cupboard doors were all hanging off. Still wondering how anyone could wreck a brand new house in a matter of months.0
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