JSA - under 25 - having to sign on every week and far away from home?

sarahg1969

gettingready wrote: »

But your girls do not have to pay for a bus to school. I am talking about unnecessary cost related to signing on.

You misunderstand. My girls didn't get the bus to school. I was using that as an example of how the number of buses does not necessarily have any bearing on the length of the journey.

But actually , we would have had to pay - £5.50 per day each - so it was cheaper (and considerably quicker) to drive them there.

So, how far is this journey your daughter makes?

gettingready

Dunroamin wrote: »

But, as I said earlier, travel and job seeking expenses is one of the things that JSA is intended to cover.

How?

Serious question. From the 56 or so a week?

My daughter does not get any HB ("because she lives at home"), my CT went up as I do not get the single adult discount any more so this will have to come out of her JSA (about 40 per month so say 10 per week).

Yes, I did call CT saying she is on JSA and asking about second adult rebate but was told - computer says no.

gettingready

School kids in London do not pay for buses - I assume you are not in London?

I just checked, it is 3.3 miles, measured in a straight line I suppose? Checked on the AA website (none of us drives).

It is a combination of distance and cost - when there is a JC 15 minutes walk away, safe walk - before anyone says she could walk the 3.3 miles twice a day every week.

Still - one question, is this normal to have to sign on every week? Not every 2 weeks?

dktreesea

To get JSA, you have to sign on at least once every two weeks or when asked. There is nothing to stop the DWP asking you to sign on more often, e.g. once a week.

And yes, looking for work can be expensive, including jumping through whatever DWP hoops are currently in motion for people who receive JSA.

dibuzz

gettingready wrote: »

Still - one question, is this normal to have to sign on every week? Not every 2 weeks?

My son had a spell of having to sign on every week although he didn't have to go to a different job centre to do it. He was 23 at the time.

Dunroamin

gettingready wrote: »

How?

Serious question. From the 56 or so a week?

My daughter does not get any HB ("because she lives at home"), my CT went up as I do not get the single adult discount any more so this will have to come out of her JSA (about 40 per month so say 10 per week).

Yes, I did call CT saying she is on JSA and asking about second adult rebate but was told - computer says no.

Sorry, but of course it does, just as it has to cover travel to interviews and when distributing CVs to businesses.

I know it's not a great deal but £56 should be plenty to cover her food, share of bills, travel, stamps and toiletries. She'd be in a worse position if she were living independently, after all.

I think you're doing her a disservice by keep repeating that's it's in "another borough" as if she's being asked to go to the moon every week!

ETA

As for the idea that a 22 year old shouldn't be expected to walk 6 miles once a week - sometimes I despair!

Tiddlywinks

gettingready wrote: »

Thanks everyone, I did not realise it is different JC for under 25's and can not understand why it needs to be so completely out of the way "in the sticks" and can not be part of the same Borough normal JC.

gettingready wrote: »

School kids in London do not pay for buses - I assume you are not in London?

I just checked, it is 3.3 miles, measured in a straight line I suppose? Checked on the AA website (none of us drives).

It is a combination of distance and cost - when there is a JC 15 minutes walk away, safe walk - before anyone says she could walk the 3.3 miles twice a day every week.

Still - one question, is this normal to have to sign on every week? Not every 2 weeks?

Are you having a laugh? The place is 3 miles away - not 300..

Your daughter has been told that there are special provisions for those under 25 - you should be glad of that fact, not on here moaning about a 3 mile journey... 3 miles in a city with one of the most comprehensive transport networks in the world.

You need to see the bigger picture:

- your daughter is an adult... So a 3 mile bus journey is not unreasonable... I did a longer trip to school everyday on the bus as an 11 year old in London.

- there is life outside of your London borough... Your daughter needs to broaden her horizons.

- attending the JC once a week to obtain the support of a specialist advisor is NOT unreasonable.

- some people spend hours getting to work everyday and having to use a variety of methods to get there... They don't have the luxury of saying "ooh, I can't go there because it's not in my borough and I'd need to change buses".

What an unbelievably inflexible attitude... you just want everything without giving anything.... another sad reflection of the "entitlement culture".

Nada666

gettingready wrote: »

I just checked, it is 3.3 miles, measured in a straight line I suppose? Checked on the AA website (none of us drives).

It is a combination of distance and cost - when there is a JC 15 minutes walk away, safe walk - before anyone says she could walk the 3.3 miles twice a day every week.

Talk about rotflol. So the centre is within easy walking distance. It has to be done only one extra time per fortnight. (It's not as if she is signing on daily.) The cost is £0 per journey. Crazy.

MacMickster

gettingready wrote: »

I just checked, it is 3.3 miles, measured in a straight line I suppose? Checked on the AA website (none of us drives).

So your daughter would have to walk an hour each way once every week, or (her choice) spend some of her handout from the taxpayer so that she can avoid this clearly unreasonable requirement.

How much time does your daughter spend walking around shopping centres, industrial estates etc visiting employers and enquiring about jobs? I would hope that it would be more than a couple of hours per week. Getting hold of a bicycle would make this easier for her too.

Perhaps the jobcentres feel that it is an important life lesson for clients to understand that a little (and it is really very little) inconvenience should be expected by both workers (almost every day of their working lives) and those who are seeking work.

gettingready

I am going to ignore the nasty comments on here as there is no point me replying to those.

I am not on benefits, this whole situation seems very strange/unreasonable to me - it is me posting not my daughter so please keep this in mind and stop "having a go" at her. She does not even know about this thread.

"Specialist under 25's adviser" - you are having a laugh? Based on what my daughter told me after her sign on session...

She will find a job but not through the "specialist advisers" who could not find their own..,. with their own both hands from what I hear.


From my point of view - it is unreasonable to get people to sign on in a different borough when there is a massive JC few minutes walk away.

Entitlement culture? Excuse me but MY taxes are keeping quite a few at home watching Jeremy Kyle on their plasma screen while drinking cider - so spare me the "entitlement culture" line.

From my point of view - I have no idea why she needs to sign on every week when people I know who sign on do it once every fortnight.

Not sure that is getting through to some people though, I doubt it.