After the Work Programme

Chester666666

donnajunkie wrote: »

after this post wp thing finishes there is the new workfare thing for 6 months. then what? are they going to keep creating new courses to send people on? surely at some point people will get sent back on the wp. having multiple courses just means even more money wasted.

I hope there isn't
I can't be dealing with more forced labour cos they lie that it helps

donnajunkie

Chester666666 wrote: »

I hope there isn't
I can't be dealing with more forced labour cos they lie that it helps

well they announced recently didnt they that from april people will either work in the community or attend the jobcentre daily. i believe its for 6 months. no-one has stopped to think what about after that. i cant see them continuing to add new schemes to start after the last one. at some point people will be refered back on to something they have already done. either that or left alone which is very doubtful.

krok

donnajunkie wrote: »

well they announced recently didnt they that from april people will either work in the community or attend the jobcentre daily. i believe its for 6 months. no-one has stopped to think what about after that. i cant see them continuing to add new schemes to start after the last one. at some point people will be refered back on to something they have already done. either that or left alone which is very doubtful.

No they said it would continue until you find work.

AP007

Got another knock back telling me 'I am afraid that the team has decided you have too much experience for this particular position. I shall keep your details, if you are happy for me to do so, as there may be other more senior posts arising in the future'
So I emailed the full email to my advisor asking her for the next time I see her to tell me how I get this company and others to not say this and make them interview me! If they cant then there is nothing the JC can do to help me get a job.

She replied and said she will ask her manager for advice and let me know. I know the answer already but they are meant to be giving advice on how they think you can get a job and they cant and I am really sick of it all now.

Also when I signed today I was told you should not still be signing with us. The woman said they are seeing the WP people and the people who have left the WP and they cant see everyone & that I need to see my advisor to sign.

She thought my advisor was 'getting out' of seeing me and to be honest she probably is as she has told me she wont be able to advise anything for me.

I guess she thinks its a waste of her time plus she has been fully booked for 2 weeks and this is JUST with people who are returners from the WP.

Too many people, not enough advisors!

donnajunkie

krok wrote: »

No they said it would continue until you find work.

i am sure some have said its for 6 months. if its permanent it definitely wont work. the thing about new deal was that it could handle the numbers because after a while you would leave to make way for someone else.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

Got another knock back telling me 'I am afraid that the team has decided you have too much experience for this particular position. I shall keep your details, if you are happy for me to do so, as there may be other more senior posts arising in the future'
So I emailed the full email to my advisor asking her for the next time I see her to tell me how I get this company and others to not say this and make them interview me! If they cant then there is nothing the JC can do to help me get a job.

She replied and said she will ask her manager for advice and let me know. I know the answer already but they are meant to be giving advice on how they think you can get a job and they cant and I am really sick of it all now.

i am surprised they havent told you to give up on your usual type of work and just go for unskilled jobs. thats what they usually do.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

Also when I signed today I was told you should not still be signing with us. The woman said they are seeing the WP people and the people who have left the WP and they cant see everyone & that I need to see my advisor to sign.

She thought my advisor was 'getting out' of seeing me and to be honest she probably is as she has told me she wont be able to advise anything for me.

you only see your adviser to sign if an appointment has been arranged with them on your signing day. this is not always possible. i have just signed on as normal a few times. i say as normal, they give me grief then as well now. people see their advisers as often as the adviser wants to see them. it depends how much they hate you.

skitler

donnajunkie wrote: »

i am surprised they havent told you to give up on your usual type of work and just go for unskilled jobs. thats what they usually do.

that's just what they try to do with me, and I wont have any of it. there is a big sign in the jsa office that says

"the job you want, the help you need" and I just keep referring them to that.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

i am surprised they havent told you to give up on your usual type of work and just go for unskilled jobs. thats what they usually do.

I do apply for retail too and that's unskilled as far as I am concerned and do you think I will get an interview there? Erm no and I have replies too.

If they think a skilled person can get an unskilled job they are idiots

john539

krok wrote: »

No they said it would continue until you find work.

I think there are meant to be 3 strands to "Help to Work".

I think you only do 6 months community work, otherwise it really would be slave labour, to do it permanently. After that I guess they'll shift you to other strand, find some other activity or offload to external company.

But yes you remain on "Help to Work" overall.

They'll no doubt make it up as they go along.