After the Work Programme

donnajunkie

sensibleadvice wrote: »

It has every relevance as to why they are placed on the course. People who can't acknowledge that the problem could well be with themselves, their attitude and unwillingness to change will continue failing to find work. Those with such intentions have evidenced that very well. Some are so ashamed of the truth they can't even acknowledge on an anonymous forum how long they've been unemployed. I have wondered if these types truly believe what they are saying or are just in denial.

yes failing to get a job means you are on jsa and as its for jsa claimants that is why you are on the course. that bits right. the rest is insulting nonesense. the reason why a person gets put on a course is not relevant to whether the course is any good or not. if someone says something is bad it doesnt mean they are at fault.

donnajunkie

sensibleadvice wrote: »

I think I may have posted that before, based on their attitude and approach on here I'd interview them.

Of course that doesn't explain why they're not getting any interviews when applying for so many jobs and the nay sayer's will continue to say there aren't enough jobs. Even in the current climate one should expect to get at least one interview out of a very few tens of applications.

if you read between the lines in this post then you will see you are at last acknowledging that you cant be sure about a person either way based on what you see here.

donnajunkie

sensibleadvice wrote: »

As with any business, when it comes to prioritising it makes sense to review their biggest problem first.

Therefore makes sense to get those in who appear to be doing very little and have been claiming for a long time as these types are very poor value for the taxpayer.

and schemes that cost you more and change nothing improves that value to the taxpayer?

donnajunkie

sensibleadvice wrote: »

Many would of course prefer a 'good' advisor to tell them not to attend very often when they're doing very little to find work.

If an advisor thinks a claimant isn't actively seeking employment they may well ask for more attendance which may annoy the claimant. But the fact remains the reason for requests for more attendance isn't to annoy but to ensure work is sought more actively.

who said anything about doing little to find work? if that were true they would be sanctioned. if they have been getting away with it then increased attendance wont change that. the poster was told its based on what the person needs so surely if they are doing very little you would put them on the intensive jobsearch option. so again i say why would anyone need to attend appointments with an adviser more often?

donnajunkie

sensibleadvice wrote: »

Of course I've considered it's a cycle. But those who choose to blame everything and everyone and refuse to even acknowledge there may be a problem with them, their applications, CV, attitude etc will carry on doing the same and remain in the same loop. As I've said before the control is seeing others with a different approach succeeding in finding work - the types who take a critical look at themselves from the employers POV.

i can only speak for myself but you will struggle to find me blaming everything. you will struggle to find me saying how perfect i am and how i think i do everything brilliantly.

donnajunkie

imatt wrote: »

You really have no clue. You know nothing about what you type. It's quite embarrassing really. Many WP clients are 'parked', i.e. forgotten about for months on end. WHY?

Because the WP provider deems them unprofitable. It is not down to whether the adviser thinks they are seeking work or not. Hence the low attendance by many jobseekers. A bit of research could have told you this.

Before blaming any jobseekers here, perhaps you should be peeved at the colossal waste of monies on corrupt schemes such as the WP.

But of course it is people such as you, happy to wallow equally in a sense of smug superiority and pure ignorance that allow sociopaths like Iain Duncan Smith and his predecessors to waste money back to work schemes which fail time and time again. Not to mention allowing spivs such as A4e's Emma Harrison to pocket £8.6 MILLION from the taxpayer in 2012.

No doubt you see yourself as some kind of radical or 'free thinker' on this thread when in reality you are little more than a useful idiot.

to be fair to the poster they werent talking about the wp. they were responding to a point about what is happening from april.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

That's not me is it? :eek:

yes it is you but later they said in a post to do as many applications as you and get no joy means theres something wrong with you.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

yes it is you but later they said in a post to do as many applications as you and get no joy means theres something wrong with you.

Hence question!

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

Hence question!

they are just talking out of their bottom. dont take any compliment from them seriously or any insult.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

they are just talking out of their bottom. dont take any compliment from them seriously or any insult.

I don't care for compliments at all