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How many people who are looking for work that do not qualify for benefits?Oh please, clutching at straws. Looking for work does not include people in full time jobs having a quick gander at reed.co.uk during their lunch.
Looking for work means those who aren't in working, including those looking for more work, the figure is not 6.5 million.We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
sensibleadvice wrote: »Honestly, tell me, how long are people left to their own devices before they end up on WP?
Honestly, tell me, those 'hindered' by JC and WP, how long have they been thinking out the box?
12 months for your first question. Although I believe someone could be referred at any time.
Sometimes help such as certain courses or starting a business can take time / and or money. Writing a business plan for example and trying to raise finance for a particular venture could easily take more than a year by which time one is on the WP.
What you are doing is lumping all jobseekers in one pot and being very judgmental. Every case is different.
Perhaps you need to do some research, esp into the way the WP works before you comment any further on the issue.0 -
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You tell me how you count the unemployed?No idea. You do know there is a difference between claimant count and unemployment count?We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Do you think you are not left to your own devices also when on the WP?sensibleadvice wrote: »Honestly, tell me, how long are people left to their own devices before they end up on WP?
Honestly, tell me, those 'hindered' by JC and WP, how long have they been thinking out the box?We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
So what is the figure then?
And more to the point, if there is no lack of jobs why are these people still looking rather than doing the jobs that are available?
I'll tell you the answer when I see your source for 6.5 million.
I never said there was no lack of jobs. Straw man much? Are we playing who wants to be a fallcyaire?0 -
Unless they are claiming some unemployment benefit there is no way to count these people, is there?People who are ready, able and willing to work but aren'. Underemployed included as a separate figure.We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Do you think you are not left to your own devices also when on the WP?
A good point. Many jobseekers on the WP are not seen for weeks or even MONTHS on end between appointments. Effectively parked. And even then, some appointments are via phone.
I guess some here think this is a good way to spend £5 billion.0
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