After the Work Programme

donnajunkie

iammumtoone wrote: »

I am not an accountant however looking at the list of roles I have to agree they sound fairly junior and I am quite confident I could do them with a bit of training. HOWEVER we then get to this bit A degree and/or strong A-Level results (A-C grades) in numerical subjects this to me then stops it being a junior role.

Serious question do employers now need degrees or strong A levels for the junior positions? It highlights a flaw in my CV I don't even have A levels does this mean I now won't even be considered for junior roles :eek: I am aware of this shortcoming and like I said earlier I asked the JC if I could do a college course but was told no. The JC are only interested in people obtaining the equivalent A-C GCSE in maths and english. I already have these but I don't think its enough these days and it seems you are not allowed to better yourself more

if you really want to go to college then you need to push this college issue further. only today i was talking to a lady in her 40's who is claiming and doing a college course which is free of charge.

donnajunkie

iammumtoone wrote: »

You are right in the fact there probably needs to be a 'general chit chat' thread but you need to have comments/responses from 'the other side' otherwise the thread is pointless, a thread with everyone agreeing with each other and moaning is not constructive. As long as no one is rude/abusive (which I haven't seen any evidence off) then I think its good to hear all points of view.

it just seems to have become over run by posters saying how the unemployed have a bad attitude and its all their own fault just because they dare to criticise a stupid course. this thread was meant to be one where people could support each other rather than a general discussion.

zak2012

What will happen when you asked to attend "post work program support" interview? my friend is on ESA warg group after her 2 year on work program jobcentre called her in for next week,any idea what will happen?she is on ESA so they push her to do things?how often they ask her to go there?thanks

donnajunkie

zak2012 wrote: »

What will happen when you asked to attend "post work program support" interview? my friend is on ESA warg group after her 2 year on work program jobcentre called her in for next week,any idea what will happen?she is on ESA so they push her to do things?how often they ask her to go there?thanks

i dont know if it works differently with esa. for jsa claimants they look at the jsa agreement and usually change it. they will then send the person on any courses they think they need(most are pointless). how often a person sees their adviser depends as it varies massively from one jobcentre to another and one adviser to another. it could be everyday, every week, once a month etc.

zak2012

donnajunkie wrote: »

i dont know if it works differently with esa. for jsa claimants they look at the jsa agreement and usually change it. they will then send the person on any courses they think they need(most are pointless). how often a person sees their adviser depends as it varies massively from one jobcentre to another and one adviser to another. it could be everyday, every week, once a month etc.

Thanks, my friend is on ESA and she taking medication and her GP wrote support letter ,she also on DLA but been put on ESA warg in past few years ,she use2 be with work program and the lady from work program used2 call her by phone sometimes she didnt need go there , but now she worried about jobcentre and her advisor is worse person u ever imagine she dont know what to do now,can she ask to be sent back to work program again?

iammumtoone

donnajunkie wrote: »

it just seems to have become over run by posters saying how the unemployed have a bad attitude and its all their own fault just because they dare to criticise a stupid course. this thread was meant to be one where people could support each other rather than a general discussion.

I do agree that some of the courses are stupid, for those who have never been on one then it is hard to describe how demeaning they are to a person with an ounce of intelligence.

For the benefit of the employed I will give an example, I had to sit through a DVD following two people as they prepared for an interview, one dressed smartly, one wore jeans and trainers, one had an early night, one went to the pub the night before (you get the gist). I do not need to watch a DVD to explain to me why one person got the job over the other.

What I do on these courses is sit quietly through the crap and when I get the opportunity grab the person in charge to ask questions specific to me (a query with my CV for example), I have found that some of them are quite helpful certainly more so than the JC advisers.

iammumtoone

donnajunkie wrote: »

if you really want to go to college then you need to push this college issue further. only today i was talking to a lady in her 40's who is claiming and doing a college course which is free of charge.

Thanks is she doing an evening course? I will look into it further I need to speak to someone (not a advisor) to find what what the actual rules are regarding courses.

Denning.

donnajunkie wrote: »

i dont like the way this thread has gone from a thread for people to talk about their post wp experiences to pretty much another thread attacking the unemployed.

Oh please. People are.'attacking' people who happen to be unemployed. That isn't the same as attacking the unemployed. You're proving their point. Blaming everyone else and refusing to take personal responsibilty.

AP007

iammumtoone wrote: »

For the benefit of the employed I will give an example, I had to sit through a DVD following two people as they prepared for an interview, one dressed smartly, one wore jeans and trainers, one had an early night, one went to the pub the night before (you get the gist). I do not need to watch a DVD to explain to me why one person got the job over the other.

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I watched a short film once at the WP where it asked the question 'Have you cut down on your alcohol intake'?

That to me is very offensive and I told them so!

Maybe the question should have been 'Have you eaten today'?

imatt

Denning. wrote: »

Oh please. People are.'attacking' people who happen to be unemployed. That isn't the same as attacking the unemployed. You're proving their point. Blaming everyone else and refusing to take personal responsibilty.

So that's clear then. Please do explain the difference.