Housing Association residents disrupting quiet estate

Johnnytwostep

gazter wrote: »

Quite. They're many many areas across the north of England that have entire streets of houses empty. Often this has been caused by a couple of bad families.

It doesnt take much to bring down an areas value, and that isnt just material value.

Is not fair on the hard-working, home owning striver having to put up with that in what should be a nice area

Tancred

There is an increasing trend for councils to 'sprinkle' new private estates with a number of 'affordable houses' for lower income families. I don't object to this in principle, however this shouldn't give local authorities carte blanche to put anti-social chavs into these areas just because there is no room elsewhere. Affordable housing should be reserved for essential workers such as teachers, firemen, nurses, police officers, etc, NOT for council estate types with dozens of unruly kids running amok.

kingstreet

It's a good job home owners and their kids are always well-behaved and never graffiti, rubbish or vandalise their neighbourhoods. Here fishy, fishy. I fancy some fun this morning!

Dan-Dan

my decorating could be confused with graffiti , its really that bad

skylight

gingergee wrote: »

I live in one of 3 (was 4) HA homes, right in the middle of a very affluent, tiny village (39 residents). We try to keep noise down, stop kids running amok, basically "fit in", however the people who own their homes loathe us!!! Even though im due to start Uni and my husband owns his own business!! Just because we are social tenants. There is a "them and us situation". If they had come to us when they had a problem ie when we had 3 cars as there was an overlap in selling one, instead of holding a village meeting, things would be a lot better between us now.
As it stands there is resentment on both sides. I don't want to be judged due to my housing situation, they don't want to live near social housing!
I agree, i think you should have a word directly with the tenants and try to get on as one community.
You are in the enviable position of owning your home and having the option to move. Social housing is sometimes people who cannot afford to own and who have little control of housing options.
Get them told about the litter etc then move on, bit of neighbourlyness (not even a word i know), can go a long way x G x

We are in a new-build mini estate in a town with the similar issues. Its the "owned" homes that have music blaring out of windows until silly o'clock, engines revving while they are being fixed at stupid o'clock and kids screaming on trampolines at daft o'clock. Some are miserable, inconsiderate little sods - and they are not cheap owned homes either. I have tried to be community minded and asked the worst offender as nicely as I could to turn it down when it gets dark and was told to pee off back to where I came from. (I'm White British, with a bit of a plummy accent, so assume he meant back to my "social housing"). Lovely.

theartfullodger

So how would you rate the chances of the HA if the boot was on the other foot??

Say the private owners were behaving objectionably, holding noisy parties into the night proclaiming their (believed...) higher social status & waving their "loadsamoney" wads about, complaining about the sc*m social tenants etc etc etc.. and the HA sues those private owners for £20-30k each....


Either take the issue up with the individual occupiers (be they tenants, owner-occupiers or landed-gentry {living in trust-owned property} ) or do nowt...

Of course in Scotland if the tenant is a tenant of a private landlord the landlord can be forced to take steps regarding ASBO behaviour... but , funny that, not if they are council or HA landlord...

Cheers!

sebtomato

I don't like to start the debate of HA residents vs. private residents.

However, in our case, this is an upmarket estate, made of 180 homes, vast communal gardens, a pond, a gym etc. One third of homes is HA, due to council planning permission rules.

The private homes are expensive, starting at £350,000 for a flat up to £1.2M for a house.

I believe everybody from the HA are tenants and can't own their home.

Unfortunately, the litter and graffiti are concentrated around the two HA buildings, and the conditions inside the buildings are very poor: furniture left, broken bikes, graffiti on walls etc.

I don't really care what's happening inside their buildings. However, the litter outside and graffiti on outside walls are an issue for all residents.

I have been talking to the HA manager many times and he does not really care. We also had some walk-arounds but he is not doing any actions.

Therefore, I don't know what the next steps are. The estate was fine until recently, when two or three families moved in and are creating trouble (so it's not done to all HA residents, and I am sure the vast majority are annoyed too). The behaviour of a few people is having detrimental effects on all other residents and property prices (although this is hard to estimate precisely).

I do believe that some tenants (social or private) don't behave the same way as resident owners, since they don't pay service charges and therefore don't care about repairs or damages.

I_have_spoken

>talking to the HA manager many times and he does not really care<

I'd be asking if the HA manager had been slipped a bung to allow these tenants onto the estate or possibly are family?

>starting at £350,000 for a flat up to £1.2M for a house. <

Must be gutting to spend that, then see chavs handed the same on a plate.

>Therefore, I don't know what the next steps are<

These types don't give a damn about CCJ, ASBOs, police records, last warning etc. The only language they understand is a hell of a beating.

Missme

If the issue is not with people being public sector tenants, why make such a feature of it in the thread title?

If it were not for the affordable housing element of the development, you would not have had a house to buy as planning would have been refused.

Granted, it is no fun living near people who have no problem living in a sty but if you wanted to be free of such concerns, you would have paid a premium to avoid them.

witchy1066

kingstreet wrote: »

It's a good job home owners and their kids are always well-behaved and never graffiti, rubbish or vandalise their neighbourhoods. Here fishy, fishy. I fancy some fun this morning!

you should see the state the local "youth" leave the beach after they have had beach party's every Friday and Saturday night
housing around here are all private expensive semi' and semi detached on and around the harbour area, they class a certain part of the beach as "theirs"
although it is a public beach

when I mentioned to one of them about having pride in where they live, he answered "someone gets paid for cleaning it up, so why should I "