Does neutering male dog stop him pulling on lead?

zaksmum

Dimey wrote: »

Sounds like the poor dog needs some decent training - after he's recovered from his unnecessary operation. (Fine if they were going to neuter anyway for testicular cancer prevention and population control reasons)

That slow step by step routine another poster mentioned, sounds ideal. But why don't they go to a professional. I think they owe it to the dog after the way they've treated him.

I agree with this. I think proper training is definitely the answer for the dog.

JencParker

zaksmum wrote: »

This dog walks marginally better with a halti but is still a nightmare to control. The halti rubs under his eyes too because of his attempts to remove it, sometimes leaving his eyes watering and sore looking.

I don't know how much lead training he has had as he's not my dog. The vet sent a leaflet out with an offer of 25% discount on neutering, the dog's owner rang and asked if neutering would stop lead pulling and the vet said it most certainly would as it would have the effect of calming the dog right down.

There was no other reason or argument for castration except the hope of no more lead pulling!

I didn't realise it wasn't your dog. TBH, it won't harm him either, unless he is a nervous dog, and probably not a bad idea if his owner is that clueless. However, the owner really needs to be told that neutering will not stop him pulling - only TRAINING can do that. And the problem will be if she believes the vet.

It sounds like the owner has simply put the halti on and expected the dog to accept it. This rarely works - they need to be trained to accept it.

I'm really beginning to feel sorry for this poor dog and not because of the neutering. He really needs an owner that will put in some effort training him, or he will become a pain in the **** and a liability.

Celli

ariba10 wrote: »

Dog training should be taken seriously and not "Just for a laugh"

When I had our first dog I took it to a class that was run by a Police Seargent dog handler and learnt a lot.

Every dog I had after went to one dog class or other to get him used to other dogs and people.

90% plus of the attendees (Good on them for that) we're women and it was pointed out they were not assertive enough.

They tend to treat the dogs as if they were young children.



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Oh good god !, how do us little wimmin' ever cope without you big tough men to train our dogs, oh I'd just be lost without a strong man.:rotfl:
Can I just say, I trained my first dog, a GSD up to KC Gold Good Citizen award, and I did it all on my wittle own, I didn't need to be dominant, or assertive, because I understood my dog, what motivated him, and how to make him understand me.

zaksmum

JencParker wrote: »

I didn't realise it wasn't your dog. TBH, it won't harm him either, unless he is a nervous dog, and probably not a bad idea if his owner is that clueless. However, the owner really needs to be told that neutering will not stop him pulling - only TRAINING can do that. And the problem will be if she believes the vet.

It sounds like the owner has simply put the halti on and expected the dog to accept it. This rarely works - they need to be trained to accept it.

I'm really beginning to feel sorry for this poor dog and not because of the neutering. He really needs an owner that will put in some effort training him, or he will become a pain in the **** and a liability.

He's far from nervous. He's very boisterous and bouncy - you would want to be sitting down when he comes barrelling towards you or you'd be flattened!

He has a lovely nature but can't be around anyone frail or elderly!

At 19 months he has time, I suppose, to calm down but I can't see how the loss of his bits will help him to.

Person_one

ariba10 wrote: »

Well thought out.

If you do not agree with me, you are a troll!

Not exactly, more like:

If you post outlandish stuff designed just to get a rise out of other posters, you are a troll.

JencParker

zaksmum wrote: »

He's far from nervous. He's very boisterous and bouncy - you would want to be sitting down when he comes barrelling towards you or you'd be flattened!

He has a lovely nature but can't be around anyone frail or elderly!

At 19 months he has time, I suppose, to calm down but I can't see how the loss of his bits will help him to.

That's good then, because neutering can have a detrimental effect on nervous dogs.

He sounds like he really does need some training though - he sounds like a liability and he won't just calm down.

Raksha

martinthebandit wrote: »

If he is pulling too much put him on a much shorter lead.

If that fails every time he pulls, stop and make him sit, eventually he will get the message and all it will cost you is time instead of costing the dog his dangly bits.

Takes two to pull, a shorter lead is actually going to make it harder to get a loose lead and therefore harder for the dog to learn a loose lead is good. The lead needs to be long enough for the dog to get at least his own body length away from you in order for him to be in the zone where he doesn't feel as if hes in your personal space.

catkins

Person_one wrote: »

Why do you assume the dog wouldn't have to get used to a harness? One of mine hated a harness, dropped to the floor and wouldn't move until I clipped the lead back to his collar! He's not a puller though, thankfully!

Be careful of assuming that your way is the 'right' way, or will work for everyone.

I put a harness on my dog at 10 weeks old - no problems at all. I know a lot of dog owners that use harnesses and don't know any that have had problems. I do however know a lot that had problems with haltis and so stopped using them.

JencParker wrote: »

Of course a dog has to get used to it and accept it. I've seen dogs that have rubbed their muzzles raw because they haven't been trained to accept it. It's not difficult - really, no dog training is difficult - just takes consistency and positive reinforcement.

Why do they have to "get used to it and accept it". How about not using a halti? It's not very nice for the dogs who have rubbed their muzzles raw is it?

I don't understand why so many people use haltis as though they were some magic solution. I know that most trainers and behaviourists don't like them.

A harness with a double ended lead is much nicer for the dog and works just as well if not better than a halti.

I hate seeing dogs with haltis on. Would you like a band round your nose?

Person_one

Maybe you could try to accept that all dogs are different, and different things work for them? Plenty of dogs are perfectly happy in a halti, and certainly don't have their muzzles rubbed raw! If your dog doesn't like it, nobody will force you to use it, so there's no need to be disparaging and defensive.

I wouldn't fancy walking round with a band round my nose, no, but then I wouldn't fancy wearing a collar round my neck or a harness either, or carrying a slimy tennis ball in my mouth for miles. I'm not a dog, no point comparing.

lemontart

Neutering nope, we have a Harness for one of our dogs and he is a lot better on that