Jobless Mother of 11 having a custom house built by Council

peachyprice

Done to death here

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4486855

and here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4485431

tesuhoha

peachyprice wrote: »

Done to death here

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4486855

and here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4485431

Well, it is an emotive subject. Maybe if it wasn't' so difficult for working people to get mortgages/council houses then no one would care that much.

bitemebankers

tesuhoha wrote: »

If the story is true she deserves to be evicted and her children put into care. This would not be a bad thing. They need a better role model than her.

Yeah, ideally they would have a better role model than their mother, but you're wrong to suggest that it wouldn't be a bad thing for the children to end up in care. In care they'll have no role model at all and their prospects will be very grim indeed. This is the reason social workers don't remove children unless there's actual, sustained abuse. Even neglect isn't usually sufficient grounds to remove a child, because their probable future in care is so awful.

tesuhoha

bitemebankers wrote: »

Yeah, ideally they would have a better role model than their mother, but you're wrong to suggest that it wouldn't be a bad thing for the children to end up in care. In care they'll have no role model at all and their prospects will be very grim indeed. This is the reason social workers don't remove children unless there's actual, sustained abuse. Even neglect isn't usually sufficient grounds to remove a child, because their probable future in care is so awful.

Yes you are probably right although if the story of the neighbour is true and I have heard it more than once, she is teaching them to be abusive towards neighbours/old people. One account I read was that the lady had to put up with all kinds of noise and nuisance from them but if she dared to put on her tv then all hell broke loose.

So yes, I suppose they are better off with her but they are probably still going to grow up to be gang members, unmarried mothers, and out of work layabouts.

billa_champion

KxMx wrote: »

I have a friend who is my age (26). She has number 8 on the way (one or two sets of twins I think). She thinks because she and her partner work no-one should be critical. Well they don't earn enough to be exempt from CB so they are obviously raking it in via CB& CTC.

Personally I think the lack of self control is astonishing!

Maybe its not lack of self-control but a cynical way to rake in loadsamoney!:cool:

Nicki

KxMx wrote: »

I have a friend who is my age (26). She has number 8 on the way (one or two sets of twins I think). She thinks because she and her partner work no-one should be critical. Well they don't earn enough to be exempt from CB so they are obviously raking it in via CB& CTC.

Personally I think the lack of self control is astonishing!

So is she only allowed to decide the size of her own family if the government change the tax rules then? Would you have afforded the same degree of contempt to married couples with no children back in the 1980's, when they benefited from the married couples tax allowance?

At 26 your "friend" and her partner have plenty of time to progress through their careers to the point where they don't qualify for either CB or CTC however big their family and the fact they both still work doesn't suggest they are scroungers or benefit cheats to me.

I put friend in quotation marks because you don't talk about her with the affection or respect that most of us accord to our friends, and in her shoes I wouldn't regard someone posting such a poisonous comment about me on a personal forum with much affection or respect either.

Dunroamin

Nicki wrote: »

So is she only allowed to decide the size of her own family if the government change the tax rules then? Would you have afforded the same degree of contempt to married couples with no children back in the 1980's, when they benefited from the married couples tax allowance?

At 26 your "friend" and her partner have plenty of time to progress through their careers to the point where they don't qualify for either CB or CTC however big their family and the fact they both still work doesn't suggest they are scroungers or benefit cheats to me.

I put friend in quotation marks because you don't talk about her with the affection or respect that most of us accord to our friends, and in her shoes I wouldn't regard someone posting such a poisonous comment about me on a personal forum with much affection or respect either.

Possibly worth pointing out that a couple with children need only work 24 hours pw between them to be eligible for WTC. Saying that a couple work, doesn't imply that either one of them work full time or that the majority of their income doesn't come from benefits.

Melaniep101

Even if this Heather Frost decides to turn this house down, no doubt it will go to some other non deserving, disfunctional family. I had an ex friend who always used to boast about spending thousands on computers, on her garden, TV's, holidays etc. At the time she was claiming HB, CTB, IS, CB and all the other add ons that I was paying for in Income Tax. Plus her partner was living with her on the sly and bringing in undeclared money.

We're no longer friends as I just couldnt hold my tongue any longer!

KxMx

I use the term friend loosely, she is more someone I knew at school really.

My own late Granddad was one of 9. Because there was no choice then. It just baffles me that people choose to have such large families. I can't imagine me with 8 kids at the age of 26. Call me old fashioned if you want

sulkisu

Melaniep101 wrote: »

Even if this Heather Frost decides to turn this house down, no doubt it will go to some other non deserving, disfunctional family. I had an ex friend who always used to boast about spending thousands on computers, on her garden, TV's, holidays etc. At the time she was claiming HB, CTB, IS, CB and all the other add ons that I was paying for in Income Tax. Plus her partner was living with her on the sly and bringing in undeclared money.

We're no longer friends as I just couldnt hold my tongue any longer!

I take it you reported her?