Why does the NRP need to see my accounts?

CakeCrusader

I'm in the process of obtaining a REMO order as the ex decided he didn't want to pay maintenance any more. I filled the form in, took along the documents (bank statements/statement of end of year accounts that the tax office has/birth certificate). For some reason the ex has decided to spend money on a solicitor and they have asked for a few extra days to get their financial statements in order and has said I should go through her (which is fine as he's been blanking me for over a year).

I've received an email from his solicitor this evening asking for more bank statements from me and my accounts (I'm self employed). I wasn't aware that he would see my finances as it has nothing to do with whether he should pay maintenance and how much he should pay. Are the courts supposed to give him access to my finances? Seems as though I've done something wrong here, not him.

Thank you.

Sensemaya

CakeCrusader wrote: »

I'm in the process of obtaining a REMO order as the ex decided he didn't want to pay maintenance any more. I filled the form in, took along the documents (bank statements/statement of end of year accounts that the tax office has/birth certificate). For some reason the ex has decided to spend money on a solicitor he naturally can throw money away on a solicitor but won't support his child and they have asked for a few extra days to get their financial statements in order and has said I should go through her (which is fine as he's been blanking me for over a year). I wouldn't be tempted to go through his solicitor. He's the defendent and you the claimant. Never use the same solicitor.

I've received an email from his solicitor this evening asking for more bank statements from me and my accounts (I'm self employed).Don't supply them. If the court wishes to see them then do so, not before. I wasn't aware that he would see my finances as it has nothing to do with whether he should pay maintenance and how much he should pay.Quite. Are the courts supposed to give him access to my finances? Seems as though I've done something wrong here, not him.

Thank you.

You have done nothing wrong. I think the solicitor is playing games here.

Have you got any legal representation? Do you have a court date?

http://www.justice.gov.uk/protecting-the-vulnerable/official-solicitor

Link might be useful. And give them a ring to discuss the correct procedure.

https://www.gov.uk/remo-unit-helpline

CakeCrusader

No, I can't afford any representation and there's no court date. He's in Ireland, I'm in the UK. I had thought the info I supplied to the court was correct as they didn't say otherwise.

Thank you for answering.

Sensemaya

I've just read through the procedure. You don't need a solicitor and it should go through the Mags Court/Family proceedings. It's also free. The staff can give you general advice over the phone but cannot comment on individual cases.

But I would phone that helpline tomorrow and explain what is happening. Don't play ball with his solicitor.

Edit: Just to be nasty and rack up his solicitors costs write back ( don't email) asking as to why they need further financial information from you. And you would be grateful if they wouldn't email you in future, but correspond via letter only.;) That should pi*ss him off.

You are playing a game here - only the lawyers win.

Sounds hard, but it's true. Sorry.

CakeCrusader

Thank you. I had assumed that the financial details I supplied to the court were confidential so something he wouldn't see. She's given me the impression that he's seen them and he wants the rest of the information. I had hoped that she'd help him to see what he needs to do for the benefit of our child, doesn't look like it though.

Sensemaya

CakeCrusader wrote: »

Thank you. I had assumed that the financial details I supplied to the court were confidential so something he wouldn't see. She's given me the impression that he's seen them and he wants the rest of the information. I had hoped that she'd help him to see what he needs to do for the benefit of our child, doesn't look like it though.

Sorry to keep quoting, but it's easier for me to reply.

No they are not confidental. He is being a nosey sod ( and paying his solicitor for his curiosity). She will have passed the info onto him.

You need to do some homework here. And don't trust his solicitor.

I'm self employed.

You have supplied your year end accounts and working tax/ child credit notification?

I wouldn't have even supplied them.

I reckon his argument is going to be: She earns such and such, so can afford blah de blah.

What did the CSA assess him at? Is he self employed?

CakeCrusader

Sensemaya wrote: »

Sorry to keep quoting, but it's easier for me to reply.

No they are not confidental. He is being a nosey sod ( and paying his solicitor for his curiosity). She will have passed the info onto him.


You need to do some homework here. And don't trust his solicitor.

I'm self employed.

You have supplied your year end accounts and working tax/ child credit notification?

I wouldn't have even supplied them.

I reckon his argument is going to be: She earns such and such, so can afford blah de blah.

What did the CSA assess him at? Is he self employed?

I've supplied this years tax return and bank statements, although not for one redundant account as I haven't used it in years. He moved to Ireland from the UK 10 years ago, the CSA had only just assessed him when he left. He then found a job in Ireland. He had been paying up until last year but would only pay into my son's account which became hard to access as I don't use the same bank, and he wouldn't increase it when he was promoted. I asked him again if he would increase it last year, when he informed me that he and his new wife had just had a new baby and they had remortgaged the house so 'no'. He doesn't see our son very often (1 hour every 18 months when he's hungover or has a spare hour) and was verbally abusive when he saw our son last. Our son is now 14 and decided he didn't want to see him so he stopped paying maintenance all together. I tried to sort this out as the maintenance used to pay for school lunches/shoes/travel to school etc but he refuses to speak to me. I had no option but to go down this route.

Sorry for the essay.

I'm tempted to tell her to get lost. If the court wants them they will ask for them. I'm trying to get this sorted as quickly as possible though.

Sensemaya

CakeCrusader wrote: »

I've supplied this years tax returnI can live with that and bank statements,the past year only? although not for one redundant account as I haven't used it in years. He moved to Ireland from the UK 10 years ago, the CSA had only just assessed him when he left.It figures. How much? He then found a job in Ireland. He had been paying up until last year but would only pay into my son's account which became hard to access as I don't use the same bank,LOL...what a cheeky sod.How's your relationship with your son? and he wouldn't increase it when he was promoted. I asked him again if he would increase it last year, when he informed me that he and his new wife had just had a new baby and they had remortgaged the house so 'no'.Here we go again. He doesn't see our son very often (1 hour every 18 months when he's hungover or has a spare hour) and was verbally abusive when he saw our son last.Dreadful. I feel for your son. Our son is now 14 Crikey. Double dreadful. Do HMRC know this? and decided he didn't want to see him so he stopped paying maintenance all together.Got to swear. Bas*tard. I tried to sort this out as the maintenance used to pay for school lunches/shoes/travel to school etc but he refuses to speak to me. I had no option but to go down this route.

Sorry for the essay. Don't apologise.

I'm tempted to tell her to get lost. If the court wants them they will ask for them. I'm trying to get this sorted as quickly as possible though.

This makes me very angry reading your post. Same old story. Find another partner ( who's probably a mug and it will happen to them ...probably) and sod the first child.

All I can say is go for it.

I must confess I know nothing about the procedure re: REMO.

But...I fought the system for years...and won.

You can too. I know it's different to the CSA, but do you homework. Stay committed and you will overcome this.

PS: Don't tell the solicitor to get lost. I keep telling you to play the game. Be nice. The sol couldn't care less about your ex hubs. It's money. String her along. Act thick. The costs will prove he can support your son... Got to go.

Keep posting.

CakeCrusader

Sensemaya wrote: »

Sorry to keep quoting, but it's easier for me to reply.



What did the CSA assess him at? Is he self employed?

God, I didn't answer this did I? He's employed (and has boasted that he can earn enough maintenance for three months in a weekend). He's been paying £200 per calendar month for ten years up until May last year. He was earning 17K when they did the assessment, I've no idea what he's on now but recon it's about 38,000 euros. He now has 2 other children.

CakeCrusader

Sensemaya wrote: »

This makes me very angry reading your post. Same old story. Find another partner ( who's probably a mug and it will happen to them ...probably) and sod the first child.

All I can say is go for it.

I must confess I know nothing about the procedure re: REMO.

But...I fought the system for years...and won.

You can too. I know it's different to the CSA, but do you homework. Stay committed and you will overcome this.

The court here didn't know what to do with it but the REMO unit in London would have checked it over and the court would have contacted me if there was an issue. I'll give them a call I think. I teach my son to stand up to bullies, it's the only way. I bet the summonds made his day!

Sensemaya

CakeCrusader wrote: »

God, I didn't answer this did I? He's employed great (and has boasted that he can earn enough maintenance for three months in a weekend WOW). He's been paying £200 per calendar month for ten years up until May last year Yes it was best just to receive something and not rock the boat. He was earning 17K when they did the assessment, I've no idea what he's on now but recon it's about 38,000 euros. He now has 2 other children.

And has his solicitor provided YOU with his latest salary figures? I suspect not.

It's all well and good boasting. The big man, he. But it's the black& white...in writing..what matters.

38Eur is about 32K BTW.

I would be writing to his sol asking for his income details..have you done this? Remember it's costing him money.