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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    Yes it is the LP they are recommending. The dreadful thing about the LP is that the patient is blamed for not trying the technique hard enough if it doesn't work.

    I can see that some cognitive techniques may hope people to cope with the devastating effect chronic illness can have on day to day life, but the problem with the LP and the like is that they purport to cure the underlying disease process. And if the patient doesn't get better it is the fault of the patient not the 'therapy'. This is what The Rowan Centre say about the 'training programme' that they offer http://www.therowancentre.com/questions-answers.htm
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    ukmaggie45 - is that the SMILE 'research' that you are referring to. Don't know much about it but I do think that the LP amounts to brainwashing and if there are no non subjective outcome measures (eg school attendance) then the 'research' is worthless. Will PM you. :)

    How crazy. This sounds a little like Christian Science in some ways.

    There is no doubt in my mind some of my personal issues are bourne from the stress from the impactor chronic illness rather than the illness itself , but that doesn't mean its not 'normal' . Whilst I'd readily accept help In better coping strategies (and frankly I think I cope rather well most of the time) I find the 'its your sin/stress whatever manifested thing grotesque.

    One of my clients has ME and I notice certain things in her regime help and don't help and I have little doubt for HER there is an emotional element. I don't think many people with chronic illness are spared that impact.
  • lostinrates
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    ukmaggie45 wrote: »
    LiR, sorry to hear you are struggling so much. You might be interested in looking at Toni Bernhard's book "How to Be Sick". I've heard a lot of good feedback from my ME friends, it's for anyone who has a chronic illness.

    Will reply better later if I get a chance - have to get a bath as we're going to a funeral. Mother of one of DD2's school friends. Very sad. Much younger than OH and me.

    Today is a bit of a rough day, but its not 'so much' really. My problem mainly this week is that I am giddy which is making getting about difficult. I'm going up and down stairs on my bottom so I don't fall, and just accepting I will fall outside, because of the mess of work and clutter and the slipperiness of rain its more likely. Tough, it happens :D

    I'm also in a 'frozen' mindset about doctors ATM where I am not receptive to their input as I have not found it that helpful. But I don't want to experiment myself without access to tests and pills. I'm coming off their food plan. I am general trend still better, but the rough days feel rough, :D
  • Davesnave wrote: »
    Excellent!:T Broken hips are no joke for anyone, but especially tough on the elderly.

    Thank you Dave :D She's doing remarkably well considering she's extremely frail plus of course her dementia. Won't get a chance to see her again now till after the weekend, but she's settling back into the nursing home where at least she has familiar faces around her :o
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  • alfie_1 wrote: »
    why do you go all that way to a dog groomer :eek:

    is that a posh maccies ;):D

    the storm here is raging :(everything is shaking

    'Cos we're bonkers Alfie :rotfl:
    No, seriously it's 'cos the groomer has a wealth of experience with our breed of puppy and we've had bad experiences/heard too many horror stories concerning groomers in the past :p

    Lunch at BB was lovely - yummy chateaubriand plus a naughty, calorie-high pudding - just slightly more expensive than Maccy D's, lol :D Back to fasting today as, having lost seven pounds I don't want to lose momentum ;)

    Edited to add: have not read all yesterday's posts yet, so do hope all are ok with no major storm/flooding issues!
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  • phoebe1989seb
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    edited 6 February 2014 at 2:38PM
    LIR -sorry to hear you are having such a rough time of things :( Sending {{{hugs}}} your way xxx

    It's horrid here at the mo - were s'posed to be taking some of DS's shabby chic furniture to the storage unit, but don't fancy doing it in the pouring rain. We were out early looking at a new Landy this morning - ours just can't cope with two dogs and all our other stuff we lift and shift, so need to upgrade to a larger model! Trouble is DH can't find one that matches up to his......
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  • RAS
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    lir {hugs} hope the day and the week become easier.
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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    I feel awful. Because I've obviously made it sound far worse than it is! I'm mainly giddy!

    Please don't worry about me. I've coped with far worse. :). Today is simply not the day to hop in a car, dance on mud or run up and down stairs. One just accepts the parameters one must work within on days like this. Its a better day for water than hot tea, the horses have been well done this morning and when I do lates I will be well wrapped up so I can take my time over things like re filling the hay mangers. This afternoon the dogs will get stiffed on a walk ( but they would in this weather anyway) and if the geese aren't on the yard they'll take their chances until lates when I'll pop them in.

    There is no reason to panic just yet. Not unless I decided to get in a car........
  • lostinrates
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    Alfie, Alfie.......any news?
  • LIR....hope you have a better day tomorrow, take care sweetie...


    3 of our boglins are going to market tomorrow.... I must admit I have chickened out of going with hubby tomorrow.... I know I should as it IS part and parcel of owning/selling livestock..


    I am afraid I will feel sorry for them.... and buy them back..lol..Will get hubby to take some pics of them in the market,


    Hayho baby steps....


    Staying up the ranch tonight.....so got the heating on full blast ready for when we are there later...
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  • lostinrates
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    edited 6 February 2014 at 7:55PM
    Re flooding, watching the local news the flooding people are saying 'we haven't showered for a week' and 'cannot do laundary' and I thought of RAS&s question about what's changed.....


    Really, REALLY????????people need to be told not to overload their soak away a in this weather? I haven't done a wash for a week, I'm not flooded, I just don't care to be (no danger here, though tough on the cake) or in creating extra water though my clean 'grey water discharge ' (or soak away for those still on old money when they spend a penny ;) ) cause those down the line.


    So I fired an email to a friend here who said, no,, no such message ever comes out in uk. I wonder if I know of it from smaller, more self reliant, more weather affected communities? But to me its obvious.....you care about people 'down the line' and the closer you are the more you're care needs to be. I raise the water level here.....it eventually raises in some area. Minutely, minute minute, but I do a tiny bit, my neighbour does,.,.so on and so on.

    Edit: I don't mean to
    Say done of us should bath or wash, but we could, and IMO SHOULD limit. I'll have to do a wash pretty soon, ( mainly because I've only got two bottom sheets for my bed and it needs changing now!) and eventually I'll need to do a clothes wash.....but I'm not washing everything I want to, I have heaped piles of Laundry and I'll catch up.
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