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Take Illegitimate sone on holiday abroad

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  • antdon
    antdon Posts: 232 Forumite
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    My real question is....

    If I draft a consent letter for his mother to sign....
    And I arrange to pay for his mother to get a passport for him.

    Is it realistic to be concerned over the airport and medical issues.... Or am I just being paranoid.....

    I cant see the airport stopping me....
    And his mother is only a phone call away if there are medical problems....
  • Spendless
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    My husband took our son and 2 of his friends abroad last year for a long weekend. All the children had travel insurance and a EHIC (they went to France) and a letter from each of the friends' parents saying they gave permission to travel out of the country and to ok any medical issues that arose (it was worded less clumsy than that but you get the general gist). Husband was asked who the children were when getting the ferry home and asked if he had a letter with him, which he gave. Husband has also done similar when taking his neice abroad as he was also travelling with his Uncle and was concerned how a teenage girl with 2 middle aged men all with different surnames looked. There are loads of people in your position who take their kids on holiday abroad. it won't be a problem, just make sure you have travel insurance and a letter from child's Mum with her contact details on. Enjoy your hol with your son. :)
  • antdon
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    Spendless wrote: »
    My husband took our son and 2 of his friends abroad last year for a long weekend. All the children had travel insurance and a EHIC (they went to France) and a letter from each of the friends' parents saying they gave permission to travel out of the country and to ok any medical issues that arose (it was worded less clumsy than that but you get the general gist). Husband was asked who the children were when getting the ferry home and asked if he had a letter with him, which he gave. Husband has also done similar when taking his neice abroad as he was also travelling with his Uncle and was concerned how a teenage girl with 2 middle aged men all with different surnames looked. There are loads of people in your position who take their kids on holiday abroad. it won't be a problem, just make sure you have travel insurance and a letter from child's Mum with her contact details on. Enjoy your hol with your son. :)

    Many thanks for this reply.....

    This is pretty much what I thought....

    Now I've just got to work out where to take him... and for how long
  • Janepig
    Janepig Posts: 16,780 Forumite
    Spendless wrote: »
    My husband took our son and 2 of his friends abroad last year for a long weekend. All the children had travel insurance and a EHIC (they went to France) and a letter from each of the friends' parents saying they gave permission to travel out of the country and to ok any medical issues that arose (it was worded less clumsy than that but you get the general gist). Husband was asked who the children were when getting the ferry home and asked if he had a letter with him, which he gave. Husband has also done similar when taking his neice abroad as he was also travelling with his Uncle and was concerned how a teenage girl with 2 middle aged men all with different surnames looked. There are loads of people in your position who take their kids on holiday abroad. it won't be a problem, just make sure you have travel insurance and a letter from child's Mum with her contact details on. Enjoy your hol with your son. :)

    Just out of interest Spendless, was the letter witnessed by a Notary or was it just signed by the parents? My dad went on holiday afew years ago with a couple who also brought along their grandson. Grandson's parents are separated/divorced so they had to get a letter of consent, witnessed by a Notary. Well two Notaries actually because one parent lives locally, the other lives (I think) in London. I can see the need to have that done (although it costs) because otherwise the letter of consent could really have been written and signed by anyone. I have a feeling that this was when they went to America, and immigration there very often want to know the ins and outs of a cats arris (my brother was quizzed for half an hour in LA because he had a one way ticket - he was flying on to Australia - including them wanting to know why he wasn't married to his girlfiend).

    I guess it's one of those things, if you had all the necessary papers you'd probably not need them, but if you didn't have them then you'd be stopped!

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  • Errata
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    These days I think there are lots of families who take their kids friends on holiday with them. And probably a letter of permission from the friends parents suffices.
    As far as medical treatment is concerned, your kid's passport has a place at the back for particulars of two people to be contacted in emergencies - make sure this is filled in. If it's a matter of life and death medical emergency eg car accident, doctors treat first and ask questions later.
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  • Marker_2
    Marker_2 Posts: 3,260 Forumite
    Why haven't you added your name to the birth certificate yet? If you and the mother are civil enough for her to accept your child support AND take him on holiday I don't understand why you don't add your name.
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  • Ich_2
    Ich_2 Posts: 1,087 Forumite
    If he needed medical treatment while abroad would this be a problem... ?


    So how do you think Scouts, Guides, Schools and any other youth organisations manage.
    They get written permission from the parents for medical treatment to be authorised in an emergency. No need to be notorised or anything like that!

    As for permission to take him that is another thing
  • pmlindyloo
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    Ich wrote: »
    So how do you think Scouts, Guides, Schools and any other youth organisations manage.
    They get written permission from the parents for medical treatment to be authorised in an emergency. No need to be notorised or anything like that!

    As for permission to take him that is another thing


    With all due respect this is totally a different situation.

    The child will have a different surname to his father's and the international laws regarding child abduction will no doubt be foremost in officials' minds. (at least I would hope so)

    Not only do I think that the OP should have a notarised letter from the child's mother with him but also a copy of his child's birth certificate.

    If I were in the OP's situation I would telephoning the UK border agency and the airline when he has decided where to go
    and asking for their specific policy/guidelines on this.
  • FBaby
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    antdon wrote: »
    I do have 'parental responsibility' and I take this very seriously(this is why I pay this child maintenance and have him at weekends)

    If you have parental responsibility, without being on the birth certificate, it means you have applied to court to get it. If so, you will have paper to prove it. To be on the safe side, have the mother sign a paper, witnessed by someone reputable, to say that she is happy with you to take your son. Take your court papers with you and in case of emergency, show this. If you have parental responsibility, you can authorise medical treatment.
  • pearl123
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    antdon wrote: »
    Hi All

    I have an illegitimate son QUOTE]

    What a terrible expression. I would have hoped that word would have died out sometime in the 60's and 70's.
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