Are some mothers really so stupid?

POPPYOSCAR

pukkamum wrote: »

Do you truly think that this is a plausible scenario?
That a baby snatcher happened to be on the bus at that point and already knew what he was going to do after he got the baby, and he knew that not one other person on that bus knew the baby wasn't his or hers, that the bus driver wouldn't realise, that the mother wouldn't see him get off and make the bus stop.

Yes the chances are remote but the possibility is still there.

An opportunist sees baby unattended, everyone else gets off the bus, there is no one to see what happens......

Not a chance I would be willing to take, however unlikely it might be for it to happen.

Georgiegirl256

pukkamum wrote: »

Shame on not one person saying as I would have, I'll keep an eye on the pram for you, or will let you know if baby cries.h.

Unfortunately the world isn't as safe a place as it was years ago. Anyone who trusts a stranger who offers to look after their child is stupid in my opinion. That one person could be the next Mark Bridger or Ian Huntley, you just never know....sad, but true.

MarilynMonroe_2

Yes she's a bad mother to do that, but my guess is if its her third you get more lax... but thats a step too far imo. Not something i'd ever do in a heartbeat!... I am one of those hoverers so the complete opposite to bus woman, and I'd rather be the way I am and keep my daughter safe.
I see far too many mothers engrossed on their phones and ignoring their kids. For instance the other week a woman was pushing a pram with one hand, one her phone with the other, her daughter around 4 walking in the middle of a busy road behind them!
Another time a kid fell off a swing and I said to his mother, your sons just fell off his swing (he was crying) and she comepletely ignored me and her son, too busy on her phone!

MarilynMonroe_2

tesuhoha wrote: »

Talking about stupid mums, there is a supremely daft mum in our local online paper. I won't give a link to it for the sake of the child but she is complaining about her son being bullied due to her being a retro pin-up model and a Katie Perry lookalike.

She had to take her 6 year old son out of primary school because of physical and verbal abuse. Once he gets another school place he will have to go back a year because of all the schooling he has missed.

All this is bad enough but there is a photo of her in her gear, then there are two photos of her cuddling her son. She is wearing an extremely low top which her enormous boobies are falling out of and you can practically see the nipples. The camera is centred very firmly on these. At the bottom there are comments about her - well lets say her appearance. Poor kid doesn't stand a chance.

I saw that article and the fault is NOT with the mother at all. She can dress how she likes, its the bully kids and the bully mothers that need sorting out.
Her dress was fine,she had a bit of cleavage so what? She wasnt naked and she wasnt bullying other mums and kids.

paulineb_2

tesuhoha wrote: »

I'm not talking about her changing the way she dresses. I'm talking about her getting her photo plastered all over the local paper. In fact, its even worse, its the Daily Mail. It is no ones business how she dresses but she has made it our business by drawing our attention to it in a newspaper. By posing in a top like that its not the child who is getting the attention but her. This might not have been so bad but he's in the photo as well. This could have far reaching effects for him in his future school and in public.

I actually felt sorry for the kid, but not because of the mum or her decision to go to the press, but because some people are obviously so mean spirited that they talk negatively about this girl behind her back and its obviously reached their kids ears.

I dont think her posing in a bin bag would have made a difference to be honest, the kid is already getting a rough time at school, so much so hes being home schooled.

And I dont think there will be far reaching effects for him at all, unless hes surrounded by a bunch of tittle tattling prudes for parents.

No I wouldnt pose for a pic with my baps on show, but there are people who do glamour modelling for a living and their kids dont get bullied, it just smacks of massive double standards and small town gossip by people who are so mightily aggrieved by someone being a Katy Perry lookalike. Seriously, all the grief that goes on in the world every day and people choose to bully a kid because of his mum being a lookalike.

If she were a Kate Middleton lookalike in twinsets and cardies people might be ooohing and aahhing all over the place. Or maybe not, because I imagine some people cant bear to see anyone try and make a living that doesnt involve doing your normal 9-5 occupation.

She should obviously stay at home and cook buns and wear a cardie up to her neck, someone needs to tell her where shes going wrong.
Its tomorrows chip paper anyway, not that important in the scheme of things.

pukkamum

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Unfortunately the world isn't as safe a place as it was years ago. Anyone who trusts a stranger who offers to look after their child is stupid in my opinion. That one person could be the next Mark Bridger or Ian Huntley, you just never know....sad, but true.

Men who were not strangers but known to the victims as are most perpetrators of crimes against children.

sexylulubelle

Person_one wrote: »

I wouldn't worry too much about the kid's privacy, it was in the Daily Mail so that ship has long since sailed, she does look a lot like Katy Perry, if a few dress sizes bigger:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2333896/My-son-bullied-I-dress-like-Katy-Perry-Model-mothers-anger-school-failing-protect-year-old.html

Schools should tackle bullying, but I can't how imagine putting him in the national press will make things better for him.

I wouldn't leave a baby unattended, but it is a good point that it used to be commonplace and nobody would have batted an eyelid. Funny how things change.

I just looked at the first photo of ms Katy perry lookalike:eek: and all I can say is nothing........... if you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all! Poor kid:(

POPPYOSCAR

pukkamum wrote: »

Men who were not strangers but known to the victims as are most perpetrators of crimes against children.

But not all.

Janepig

mysk_girl wrote: »

At the hospital where I had my 3, it was compulsory to keep your baby with you at all times. They had cots on wheels so you didn't have to carry them, but unless Dad was visiting and would stay with the baby, s/he went everywhere Mum did. They are now 5.5, 3 and 6 months, don't know how long that rule has been in place.

Mine are 10 and 7 and when I was in hospital after having them, they wore a tag around their leg which set off an alarm if they were taken off the ward. I thought that was still the case, and it meant you didn't have to wheel your baby everywhere you went.

paulineb wrote: »

Seriously, all the grief that goes on in the world every day and people choose to bully a kid because of his mum being a lookalike.

I may be naiive, but I really can't imagine a bunch of six year old boys bullying another six year old boy because his mother likes to dress up like Katy Perry. I'm not saying he isn't being bullied (although her description of that sounds a bit far fetched to me - Police escort???) but it may be because of something else. I've got a 7 year old son and I can't imagine him or his classmates giving two hoots what each other's parents do outside school.

I also think that sometimes adults wading in can do more harm than good. My DS has had the odd whack from other kids, and there've been fallings out, which I'm sure some parents would kick off about, but I'm not about to go rocking the boat with the school when they're all friends again the next day. But some parents won't have anyone look sideways at their precious child without kicking off. I bet the school that child was in a breathing a hefty sigh of relief that she's taking him elsewhere.

That whole article reeks of publicity stunt on the part of the mother and her "career".

The mother in the OP's first post imo should have just explained to her other two that it was not possible to go on the top of the bus because the baby was with them. Not that I think that there's a bogeyman waiting on every bus for just such an opportunity, but that it teaches them that they can't have everything they want!

Jx

Janepig

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

But not all.

Far and away the vast majority. I can think of many cases over the years of abuse/murder/abduction and I struggle to think of more than one or two where the victim didn't know their attacker.

Jx