Nearly died on the M4 this morning

Lum

Joe_Horner wrote: »

In those conditions you really should be ready for the idiot in the tailback who decides to re-join the main flow because it happens almost every day!

Often you can see it coming, but it's definitely one of those times where leaving an empty lane between you and the tailback is worthwhile, assuming it's quiet enough and you aren't holding anyone else back.

Joe_Horner

Lum wrote: »

Often you can see it coming, but it's definitely one of those times where leaving an empty lane between you and the tailback is worthwhile, assuming it's quiet enough and you aren't holding anyone else back.

Oi! Ms Company Mondeo Driver!

Will you please stop advocating sensible driving habits - you're giving the whole stereotype* a good name! :rotfl:



*Female, Mondeo driver and company car - by rights you should be permanently foot-to-floor while doing 15 mph, in the outside lane, putting your makeup on

Lum

I thought that stereotype only applied to blokes in company Mondeos, usually with shiny white shirts hanging in the back windows. (edit: Wrote this before you edited in that footnote)

Next you'll be telling me not to move into the middle lane when passing a broken down car, in case they open their door or don't like being windswept.

(and telling me not to move back after doing so)

Joe_Horner

Lum wrote: »

Next you'll be telling me not to move into the middle lane when passing a broken down car, in case they open their door or don't like being windswept.

(and telling me not to move back after doing so)

Bloody MLMs!!!!

[Deleted User]

Still find it amazing that whatever you post on this forum someone will find fault somewhere and tell you its your fault.

To be honest, its quite amusing..... :-)

Joe_Horner

[quote=[Deleted User];61643849]Still find it amazing that whatever you post on this forum someone will find fault somewhere and tell you its your fault.

To be honest, its quite amusing..... :-)[/QUOTE]

Paul, I certainly wasn't saying "it was your fault". From your description, the lorry driver was 100% at fault. My point was only that, by learning from when these things happen rather than being satisfied with "wasn't my fault", drivers can learn to avoid many (even most) other people's faults in future.

The first step in that is to consider what you might have picked up on earlier in his actions so that next time someone does similar you have more time to react. Which has to be a good thing!

Lum

Joe_Horner wrote: »

*Female, Mondeo driver and company car - by rights you should be permanently foot-to-floor while doing 15 mph, in the outside lane, putting your makeup on

Just caught this edit. If it's any consolation, I'm not actually a "Mondeo driver" I just happen to also have access to a Mondeo.

That said, given that the Mondeo replaced a Volvo 940 Wentworth estate with the 2.0 turbo engine, it probably doesn't help my case.


I do have to agree with the post above however. The trucker is 100% at fault, and the roads are full of idiots. It's always worthwhile learning the best way to deal with situations like this as it's much better to come out unscathed than to have a crash and come out with a permanent injury and a bit of compo.

alastairq

What's with this continual focus on 'fault?'

Why does someone always have to be blamed?'

One of the reasons why drivers fail to 'learn' from what goes wrong, lies with how they view 'fault!'

Typically, if a driver has a problem with the actions of another driver...and ...in their own minds, can lay the blame for the problem fairly and squarely with that other driver, what are they going to learn from the experience?

Probably nothing more than, all other drivers are idiots?

But the real problem wasn't what the other driver did....but how we failed to cope with what they did.

Understand why we fail to cope comfortably...without drama, and then we can start to learn from the experience.

This is a basic premis of all so-called 'advanced' driver training.

It does require a quantum change of driver attitude, towards driving.

Nothing to do with 'blame' or 'fault'...that is solely the realm of the Insurance Loss Adjuster.

Lum

<pedant>a quantum change would be a very small change indeed</pedant>

But yes, for fault I was talking about insurance purposes, which really doesn't mean much if it's the insurance company paying for your funeral.


Bonus points on insurance fault. If after swerving you avoided hitting the truck but instead caused an accident in the outside lane. For insurance purposes that would be 100% your fault and you'd be the one losing your NCB and paying inflated premiums for the next five years, assuming you're still capable of driving afterwards.

meg72

mgdavid wrote: »

'nearly died' - really?
OTT.

My thoughts too, what a drama queen, incidents like this occur everyday and not only on the motorway, part and parcel of driving I think. You just have to be on the ball.