Not allowed to take birthday cake to daughters party?

suejb2

Crikey! How rude of some posters! Even though I don't know anyone from Adam or Eve on this site I don't think it's right to hijack someones post and argue, make your own thread and bicker somewhere else.
Well done O.P for not backing down funny how they could accommodate your homemade cake when you said you won't be using them for the party.Enjoy the party.

Dazi

suejb2 wrote: »

Crikey! How rude of some posters! Even though I don't know anyone from Adam or Eve on this site I don't think it's right to hijack someones post and argue, make your own thread and bicker somewhere else.

Totally agree with you, I was just surfing around the forum and came upon this. Where did all this summer kids are thick come from when the OP was talking about a birthday cake?

Anyway OP, glad you can take your own cake, I like the sound of a rainbow cake, don't forget to come back and show us a pic of it

anniestar

daisiegg wrote: »

Yes, as I said, there are always plenty of exceptions!

I know one of the big drives at the moment in education is 'narrowing the gap'. This basically means, helping students who may have barriers to their achievement to achieve as well as students who don't have those barriers. We need to be able to identify all of our 'narrowing the gap' students in each of our classes, and be able to explain, if questioned, what we do to support them. Those groups include: students with special educational needs, students with English as an additional language, looked after children (children in the care system), students on free school meals, and summer born children. So they are considered to be educationally at a disadvantage. OF COURSE being in one of these categories does not automatically mean you are definitely going to underachieve! It just means that nationwide, ystatistically, you are more likely to. Sometimes it is a bit ridiculous; for example I have students coming up on my list as having English as an additional language, but their English is actually perfect and they are often at the top of the class...so they don't necessarily always need extra support!

I have heard that another key target group that is apparently vastly underachieving is 'working class white boys'. Really, the way things are going, the majority of any given class will be on this list of narrowing the gap students! What it is important to remember, as a parent, a student or indeed a teacher, is that just because a student's name may appear on one of these lists it does not mean they are automatically going to underachieve. And trust me, we do NOT look down our registers, mark off the students who were born after May and think 'well, they will be rubbish'! :rotfl:

You haven't been in education very long have you? (I am not being nasty truly) whilst it is true that there are various studies regatding summer birthdays and the impact on exam results. It is also very unwise to treat the findings with anything but extreme caution. Children cant be put in neat little boxes as mmuch as some boffins would like!
My DH(senior examiner) hasn't seem too much evidence of a major problem.
All children learn at their own pace, they are individuals NOT cogs that can be treated as such.
They must be treated as the individuals not sops.
The longer you are in contact with actual children the more the stats go out the window.
They can suss out" a weak teacher at 100mtrs. Nor can they be "bought" with treats from a teacher.
By the way. I am a qualified teacher, have been a NQT mentor and been involved with a PGCE course. My birthday is July 30th.
Anyway, I thought this thread was about CAKE?

Brighton_belle

Daisyegg is one of the nicest and most considerate posters on MSE. Why people are suddenly jumping on the bandwagon to have a go at her , when she has long since apologised for going off topic and stopped posting is every bit as 'rude' IMO. Anyway, it is very common for threads to meander a little: just like normal conversations do.

I found the topic very intereresting myself, and I also misread the post that sparked the subtopic off, thinking someone was being sarcy about summer borns because of schooling.

anniestar

Brighton Belle
If your comments are directed at me I'd like to say I think its more than a little unfair.
I was having a 'wind down' surf & across this thread which interested me. I feel strongly if something is said that I (or ANYONE else- it IS an open forum after all) does not agree with we can and should say so.

The summer disadvantage argument is many years old. It DOES cause upset-the inference being parents are putting their children at an inbuilt disadvantage. What parent wants to do that?. It has also been noted that it simply one possible area to investigate.
It is far more important to have good, knowledgeable subject specialists. Teavhers that TEACH not ones that want to be friends with their class (although being friendly and approachable are vital). Far too many classes are taught by a succession of supply teachers & TA's. That has a far more serious impact on results.
OP I am so sorry your thread got sent so off topic & I am delighted you resolved your issue. Something very similar happened to me years ago(at my 18th so truly historical!) Enjoy your victory!
A.xx

SueC_2

Ah, but has anyone ever done a study into what colour shoe preferences the under-performing children have?

Quite possibly just as relevant as what time of year they were born...!

Brighton_belle

Sorry annie star - I never like to be unfair to anyone, it was more at a succession of people I felt were misreading and accusing of 'being rude' a lovely poster who has always seemed a compassionate teacher who was just enthusiastically answering someone else's query. Most threads on here vere about abit. (And perhaps as a late Aug child I wished this theory had been better known when I was at school as it potentially explains a lot;))

OP very glad you sorted the cake - a friend of mine made a rainbow cake and they look stunning - clever you: I wouldn't know where to start.

neverdespairgirl

anniestar wrote: »

The summer disadvantage argument is many years old. It DOES cause upset-the inference being parents are putting their children at an inbuilt disadvantage. What parent wants to do that?. It has also been noted that it simply one possible area to investigate.

My son is a summer baby, but it doesn't cause me any upset at all. It's something that is relevant, but not overwhelming. Can't imagine why any parent would be upset about it, to be honest! That would be very over-sensitive, I think.

No-one's criticising anyone for having a child born in the summer, surely?

happy_to_be_here

My little one is due mid August and I'm so happy! We're up in Scotland though so it's different for us to you guys down south and she'll be one of the oldest. My dh thought I was mental when we first started speaking babies and I told him I didn't want to have a baby with a Dec-Feb birthday lol