Net migration down nearly 100,000 over the year

Graham_Devon

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

On behalf of all Aberdonians, can I just say.....

NO!

Why not?

Do you not welcome people moving in from other countries?

Or are you just being racist? Maybe a little xenophobic!?

gadgetmind

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Yer...so, the infrastructure question done then?

No, but it's a Friday.

it's easier to point "swivel eyed loon"! Better than vile racists I guess.....so one should be grateful of small mercies.

If you like, but perhaps the best way for you to control what people call you is to give some serious thought to the views you hold and how you communicate them. Find a quiet moment. with no distractions and no-one else around, and then think long and hard about how *you* really feel your fellow humans.

Even if they haven't been born in this country, even if their skin isn't the same colour as yours, perhaps you could eventually start to see them as an important part of society? Perhaps, eventually, as equals and friends?

As I say, find a quiet moment, and be honest with yourself.

Graham_Devon

gadgetmind wrote: »

No, but it's a Friday.



If you like, but perhaps the best way for you to control what people call you is to give some serious thought to the views you hold and how you communicate them. Find a quiet moment. with no distractions and no-one else around, and then think long and hard about how *you* really feel your fellow humans.

Even if they haven't been born in this country, even if their skin isn't the same colour as yours, perhaps you could eventually start to see them as an important part of society? Perhaps, eventually, as equals and friends?

As I say, find a quiet moment, and be honest with yourself.

Cheers for that.

I dunno what I'd do without a jolly good talking down to and being told how I see the world and people of differing colours.

I'll run along like the good little boy that I am and give it a good, long, hard think.

Hopefully, at the end of it all, I can come out, as it were, and simply say.... Awwww, fwend.....

gadgetmind

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Cheers for that.

Thank me if it works, which based on the rest of your message sounds unlikely. However, I like to think that no-one is a lost cause.

Graham_Devon

gadgetmind wrote: »

Thank me if it works, which based on the rest of your message sounds unlikely. However, I like to think that no-one is a lost cause.

Damn charitable of you.

ruggedtoast

Graham_Devon wrote: »

This really isn't fair to anyone who's suggested lower immigration is a good thing, or something they would like to continue.

No one has said anything about immigrants being "bad people". No one has pre-judged anyone. All we've done is look at numbers.

It just railroads the debate back down the "racist" route again.

Absolutely no one has even attempted to look at any of the infrastructure issues I put forward. Plenty have fallen over themselves to throw names around though.

I personally feel like my issues about infrastructure were fair issues.

You should try building bridges, Graham.

nomoreboomandbust

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You should try building bridges, Graham.

That should help with our infrastructure problems

Graham_Devon

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You should try building bridges, Graham.

Seriously....what bridges should I build? Simple question really which I hope to be answered.

You've simply insinuated I don't like colours. Which is just nonsense and a slur which, to be fair, you didn't start but has certainly stuck thanks to the efforts of other posters.

You haven't taken any notice of any of the reasons I am against open door immigration. No one seems to care. Easier to shout racist, ignore the issues raised, and say how wonderful immigration is.

This is why fringe parties are rising. People keep pointing the finger, shouting racist, so voters who get this thrown at them get tired and vote, sometimes, for extreme parties.

The infrastructure thing is an absolute prime argument. In response you get "immigration is good, it brings infrastructure". But no one can actually give an example of said goodness. Straight away it's back to "you don't like coloured people".

Seems the more questions you ask of the "immigration is good" stuff, the more you become branded a racist.

I might well change my mind if anyone can give me a reason to do so. Unfortunately, the reasons, bar being branded and called names, are simply not forthcoming.

Happens not just here, but on programmes like question time too, when members of the audience ask fair questions about immigration or the EU and they simply get told "they are wrong". Not why. Not how. They just are "wrong" and that's pretty much the end of it.

Graham_Devon

This evidence is interesting....

Many on the left, who cannot bring themselves to admit that net migration of 200,000 per year is too much for a small island such as ours, continue to perpetuate the idea that, in the process of reducing net migration the government is harming the economy. Fortunately for the rest of us, there is very little evidence to back this up. It is high time that was made clear.
For three consecutive quarters, Sarah Mulley of the IPPR has tried to suggest that falling net migration is the result of a reduction in international students which is not only harming the UK economy but will also prove to be ultimately futile since fewer students arriving means fewer students leaving in the future. See here , here and here .
Once again, we find ourselves explaining why the IPPR is wrong.

Waffle.....

And just last year the Home Office found that 48 per cent of Pakistani students and 59 per cent of Indian students who were interviewed as part of a pilot scheme would have potentially been refused a visa on credibility grounds.
The vast majority of these potential refusals were applying for further/higher education and not university.
That is no doubt why the fall in student visas over the last year has come not from the university sector but in the Further Education/College sector, where the majority of abuse has been identified. Moreover, the fall in students was largely from Pakistan and India which saw a 62 per cent and 38 per cent decrease year on year respectively . This is unsurprising given the evidence of abuse as noted above.

The fall in visa applications has come from 2 countries. The 2 countries with statistically the highest amount of fraudulent appliacations.

Unless we want to celebrate fraud, surely this is a good thing?

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/05/why-once-again-a-fall-in-student-immigration-is-good/

Percy1983

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

And replace it with an upside down pyramid instead.:eek:

You really have no grasp of basic economics at all, do you Percy lad?

I am pretty sure I said stop the pyramid scheme, can't remember saying turn it upside down.

Here is an idea:

How about a system where each generation puts in the same as they take out? rather than taking more than they put in as the next generation will be bigger so can cover it?

Shall we call it a sky scraper, as each floor is the same size, as you all go up in the lift the next floor is the same again.