An "unprecedented and historic result"

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

And she was pleasant to the eye and on the ear

She's a nice lady. Always looks at the full picture rather than the party picture. But not my type

Graham_Devon

ILW wrote: »

Why is wanting immigration controls considered right wing?

Presumably because some of those on the left don't like it, so it's right wing. Right wing is seen as nastier, so I guess it's just the label that's been attached.

The guardian are always describing them as far right wing, so maybe that's where it started?

That's the question no politician could answer and were silenced by last night.

Portillo tried, but was swiftly knocked back.

StevieJ

Graham_Devon wrote: »

She's a nice lady. Always looks at the full picture rather than the party picture. But not my type

I meant the journalist , but Shirley sure has had her moments, like when she nearly won the part in National Velvet from Elisabeth Taylor.

Sampong

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Eh?

The reason there is a stunned, uncomfortable, silence when Farage speaks is the same reason there is stunned, uncomfortable, silence when your embarrassing old uncle farts at the dinner table at Christmas time and then announces it had lumps in it.....

Flipping Heck Hamish stay off the drugs.

StevieJ

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Presumably because some of those on the left don't like it, so it's right wing. Right wing is seen as nastier, so I guess it's just the label that's been attached.

Sinn Fein have the same problem in Ireland trying to disassociate themselves from the IRA

ILW

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Presumably because some of those on the left don't like it, so it's right wing. Right wing is seen as nastier, so I guess it's just the label that's been attached.

The guardian are always describing them as far right wing, so maybe that's where it started?

That's the question no politician could answer and were silenced by last night.

Portillo tried, but was swiftly knocked back.

I am old enough to remember the 70s when some of the most fervent anti immigration organisations were trade unions. Doubt thet considered themselves right wing.

Graham_Devon

Sampong wrote: »

Flipping Heck Hamish stay off the drugs.

Hamish's approach is to smear the party.

It has been on every single thread about them. Whether it's to accuse the party of being racists. Whether it's to accuse their party members of being racist, or their voters.

It could be stating, in a factual way that the party has made a statement that they have never made. (his opening post).

It could be making out that the only reason that no one can answer is because they are so stunned they cannot physically speak.

It could be taking a real new article and editing it to make it look like something else on a forum, with no reference to the fact he's edited it. Those edits usually include removing entire paragraphs, or just single sentences to remove context or change how it's read.

Whatever it is, it's smearing.

Though, to be fair to Hamish, this is a tactic that all parties, and many members of the public use to fight, or knock down a political party and it's supporters.

It's just a shame it's so blatant with Hamish and quite so easy to make a mockery of.

Alistair Campbell.....now theres a bloke who knows how to do what Hamish is doing...and knows how to do it VERY well.

On a personal level, it's amusing for me at least as after all this he runs around the forum accusing me of muddling things.

Sampong

ILW wrote: »

I am old enough to remember the 70s when some of the most fervent anti immigration organisations were trade unions. Doubt thet considered themselves right wing.

Changed their tune a little haven't they - they now recruit in Eastern Europe.

Graham_Devon

ILW wrote: »

I am old enough to remember the 70s when some of the most fervent anti immigration organisations were trade unions. Doubt thet considered themselves right wing.

Brings a whole new level of hypocrisy to the table then.

Mallotum_X

Graham, there is however an awful lot of ammunition to use against UKIP.

They have had to distance themselves from a number of their own candidates in this and previous elections due to some rather unpleasant comments and views expressed. Whilst they always state these are not the views of the party (on topics from disability, Gay rights, women's rights, abortion, rape.... etc etc), the party does seem to attract those with such views.

The recent re-branding into a mainstream party is interesting, particularly the claims its a not a right wing party.