An "unprecedented and historic result"

Mallotum_X

Not the first time a minor party gets a reasonable protest vote in local elections. Extremely unlikely to get anywhere near that level of support at a general election.

And don't forget the 26% support is in the wards they are standing in - which will have been selected as those where they have the best chance.

Graham_Devon

Sampong wrote: »

This post is absolutely spot on.

Michael Portillo had a pop didn't he despite being a huge Eurosceptic - Farage shut him up though. He was bang on when he questioned Portillo as to why discussing mass immigration is right wing (it's not).

Got me wondering I must admit.

I've never really thought about it before, but what does make UKIP right wing? Is it just accepted that they are because that's the label that's been put on them?

Those against them will often state they are right wing, but then complain they have no policy. So how can they be said to be right wing?

Farage has stated they are not right wing, just looking at a common sense approach.

And yes, even Portillo whom I have great respect for, was silenced and stuck after just one sentence from Farage. It happens to the best of them! They are so used to playing the party politics that it seems any response not playing party politics catches them completely off guard.

I just found it amusing that the BBC had set him up as the one sitting there with the Beer. Very amusing to see him there supping at his beer knocking the three parties into silence with one sentence!!

I'm not saying I want to see them in power because I don't....but that sort of setup is just brilliant. It's what we need to change politics in this country.

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

First time I have heard that obnoxious historian person make a valid comment when he expressed his views on globalisation during QT last night.

LOL, that blokes such an idiot in the way he comes across and treats people, but once he's got passed his "this, ladies and gentleman" nonsense, he comes out with a very valid point. Much like Farage.....stuns all the political parties as they can't fight it....it's not party political.

It appears to me, the only fighting the 3 main parties can do (and possibly the Greens are involved in this too) is to fight each other by playing the blame game at every opportunity.

The only people who actually gave answers last night on QT were the historian and that journalist. The politicians simply spent the whole show puffing their feathers and blaming each other. Dimbleby at one point had to try and reign Harriet Harman back from her blaming continually, but he wasn't successful. Theres no answers from any of the politicians, just blame and smoke and mirrors.

Actually...the other women, can't remember her name gave answers and facts too....

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Graham_Devon wrote: »

And yes, even Portillo whom I have great respect for, was silenced and stuck after just one sentence from Farage. It happens to the best of them! .

Eh?

The reason there is a stunned, uncomfortable, silence when Farage speaks is the same reason there is stunned, uncomfortable, silence when your embarrassing old uncle farts at the dinner table at Christmas time and then announces it had lumps in it.....

Sampong

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Got me wondering I must admit.

I've never really thought about it before, but what does make UKIP right wing? Is it just accepted that they are because that's the label that's been put on them?

Those against them will often state they are right wing, but then complain they have no policy. So how can they be said to be right wing?

Farage has stated they are not right wing, just looking at a common sense approach.

And yes, even Portillo whom I have great respect for, was silenced and stuck after just one sentence from Farage. It happens to the best of them! They are so used to playing the party politics that it seems any response not playing party politics catches them completely off guard.

I just found it amusing that the BBC had set him up as the one sitting there with the Beer. Very amusing to see him there supping at his beer knocking the three parties into silence with one sentence!!

I'm not saying I want to see them in power because I don't....but that sort of setup is just brilliant. It's what we need to change politics in this country.

Yes I am also a Portillo fan but he got it wrong last night.

I am (obviously) an avid UKIP supporter and member - but I don't consider myself right wing - I just want our Government to act in our best interests - that's just common sense.

Graham_Devon

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Eh?

The reason there is a stunned, uncomfortable, silence when Farage speaks is the same reason there is stunned, uncomfortable, silence when your embarrassing old uncle farts at the dinner table at Christmas time and then announces it had lumps in it.....

Did you watch it?

Only it appears you have no idea why he was knocked back? You appear to have simply created a scenario which you can agree with.

There wasn't uncomfortable silence as you have made out. Just Portillo slopped back in his chair, smiled and looked at Andrew Neill to move on.

ruggedtoast

Politics is so depressing, they really are all just the same, a bunch of career politicians who have no idea what the real world is like. No wonder turnout is low come election time.

StevieJ

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Actually...the other women, can't remember her name gave answers and facts too....

And she was pleasant to the eye and on the ear

ILW

Why is wanting immigration controls considered right wing?

grizzly1911

They may be a one trick pony but Farage talks straighter than most politicians whether you like the messages or not.

Anything that can stir some life into the other two main parties has to be a benefit.

I wonder what Farage head to Head with Shapps would look like.:rotfl: