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Vent - babies on longnhaul flights

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  • Tigsteroonie
    Tigsteroonie Posts: 24,954 Forumite
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    HiToAll wrote: »
    I am a parent who has taken his baby on flights, short and long haul since he was a couple of months old. Sometimes it is impossible to stop the crying, but I am sure the parent doesn't want the baby screaming either but also wants a holiday of their choosing.
    And I'm a parent who is choosing not to take our toddler on any holiday abroad until I feel he is old enough to understand the situation and behave appropriately for 80+% of the flight. We'll holiday in the UK until that point.
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  • notanewuser
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    And I'm a parent who is choosing not to take our toddler on any holiday abroad until I feel he is old enough to understand the situation and behave appropriately for 80+% of the flight. We'll holiday in the UK until that point.

    We enjoy UK holidays most of the time too.

    Trouble is, for us at least, if we wait till DD is 5 or 8 or 10 Castro will be dead and there will be no point going to Cuba because it will be wall to wall Starbucks and McDonalds.

    DD is generally very well behaved, so I can't worry too much about the flight. I believe travel is one of the greatest gifts you can give a child.
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  • HiToAll
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    And I'm a parent who is choosing not to take our toddler on any holiday abroad until I feel he is old enough to understand the situation and behave appropriately for 80+% of the flight. We'll holiday in the UK until that point.

    I am all for choosing what holidays you go on, but that choice will not be based on the chance that my child may annoy other people for a few hours.
    If there was a magic remedy that stops crying all flight I would have used it but there isn't apart from not going on a flight and that's not going to happen for me anyway.
  • Tigsteroonie
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    DD is generally very well behaved, so I can't worry too much about the flight. I believe travel is one of the greatest gifts you can give a child.

    I would agree, but at age 3 our son isn't likely to appreciate it ;) Once he's old enough to appreciate travel and seeing new & different sights, he'll probably be old enough to cope with the flight too.

    I have to point out, that this is one area where Marley & I don't agree :rotfl:
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Similar to living in a flat and buying a massive surround sound system with no regard for ones neighbours. purely because it is what YOU want to do.
  • Lokolo
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    HiToAll wrote: »
    I am all for choosing what holidays you go on, but that choice will not be based on the chance that my child may annoy other people for a few hours.
    If there was a magic remedy that stops crying all flight I would have used it but there isn't apart from not going on a flight and that's not going to happen for me anyway.

    How arrogant. Do you not have any concern for other passengers?

    I think I might play my speakers on my next flight. Who cares about the other passengers and how they feel eh!
  • HiToAll
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    Lokolo wrote: »
    How arrogant. Do you not have any concern for other passengers?

    I think I might play my speakers on my next flight. Who cares about the other passengers and how they feel eh!

    Maybe it is arrogant according to you, however you choosing to play your speakers to annoy others as an adult ( I assume) is not the same as a baby crying on a flight, unless you believe that the baby says 'i think i will cry now as i know it will annoy at least one person on this flight'.
  • Lokolo
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    HiToAll wrote: »
    Maybe it is arrogant according to you, however you choosing to play your speakers to annoy others as an adult ( I assume) is not the same as a baby crying on a flight, unless you believe that the baby says 'i think i will cry now as i know it will annoy at least one person on this flight'.

    No but as a 'responsible' adult you would know (or have a good idea) or how your child would react on a flight.

    You choose to continue to take your child on the flight.

    I have had a couple of children who have been angels on flights (apart from her parents falling asleep and me being made to help her with her sticker book!) and I don't have a problem with.

    What I have a problem with is the other type of children and their parents who decided "oh we need to fly somewhere for our children to enjoy somewhere which they won't remember in 10 years". Jeez, if you want to travel, get in a car, get a ferry to France and there we go!
  • mumps
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    I don't think mine ever cried on flights and I agree that kicking the back of the chair is the most annoying thing in the world.

    A friend of mine had to pack up the house and organise a move to another continent when her husband was offered a big promotion. He had to go on ahead so she was left with everything to do and 4 children under 6 to get to their new country. The company paid for her to go business class. She said it was hilarious to see peoples reactions when she got on but she got help from flight attendants and all the kids were good, they actually helped to amuse each other so it all worked out OK>
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  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    Lokolo wrote: »
    No but as a 'responsible' adult you would know (or have a good idea) or how your child would react on a flight.

    You choose to continue to take your child on the flight.

    !

    How can you possibly have any idea how your child will react to taking off, landing and a pressurised cabin at 30,000 feet without taking them in a plane?

    It's not really something you can easily simulate at home!!!!
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