Sanctions

wattdallas

princessdon wrote: »

I must be an oddball then. 4 children or 10 makes no difference really. I have loads of kids on school holidays (I am term time) and on my early day's after work. I know they will quid pro quo if needed and it's good to have my children with friends.

I will have 12 children on Tuesday as my early finish and school pick up. Not a bother or hassle what so ever. Children are quieter with friends than squabbling with siblings. Even when young I always had play dates and a houseful. It makes me happy. I had my friends triplets recently for a weekend, was tired (toddles with SEN) but happy to provide them a break as they needed it.

Maybe because you DO have an OH, those of us who are on our own a lot depend on each other!

You have a OH - YOU choose for him to work away

Oh dont forget your sailing school for autistic children on the weekends,your fostering,looking after granny,helping you disabled parents ,your sisters brain tumor,school children whom you have every morning for breakfast.Your disabilities - deaf and another one that your chinese herbalist has cured you of.Oh and you would be put straight into the support group if applied.Youalso have a disabled child and foster child ie niece .

Are those the same triplets that are blind deaf with learning disabilities.What a superwoman;)

I dont think your an oddball at all - just a BS er:rotfl:

Ellejmorgan

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I understand somewhat about the unsocial hours, but that would not apply to most people would it? And are there not any fathers around?

no not in my case, been married twice both live 200 miles away and I couldn't leave the kids with them, one wouldn't even consider living in the same town as his kids, which says a lot...some men are terrible fathers which doesn't Come to light until the child is born.....

Ellejmorgan

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

I can think of several instances whereby people have moved away to escape abusive parents, or may have been in the care system, therefore have become estranged from family.

It's not always as simple and dried cut that many on here would have people believe.

well said I was in the care system, apart from my children the only family I have is my sister who lives 20 miles away, I'm not very mobile due to health so she comes down to us...She's amazing, totally supportive but limited, she works full time, has a hubby who works nights, she does have the eldest two girls around once a month, but can't yet take the toddler, this is the reality for many people I know...

my lack of mobility causes me not to mix as I'd like to, tbh I would love to go back to work but have many issues to overcome other than children....I'm deemed as not fit or work but really feel for those single mums that are trying hard to get work....

princessdon

wattdallas wrote: »

You have a OH - YOU choose for him to work away

Oh dont forget your sailing school for autistic children on the weekends,your fostering,looking after granny,helping you disabled parents ,your sisters brain tumor,school children whom you have every morning for breakfast.Your disabilities - deaf and another one that your chinese herbalist has cured you of.Oh and you would be put straight into the support group if applied.Youalso have a disabled child and foster child ie niece .

Are those the same triplets that are blind deaf with learning disabilities.What a superwoman;)

I dont think your an oddball at all - just a BS er:rotfl:

I don't sail at all -wrong again

No disabled parents - dont help them -wrong again.

No brain tumour for my sister - wrong again

My daughters friends come for breakfast - crime of the century

No Chinese herbalist has ever cured me of anything - wrong again

My daughter is NOT disabled. She has medical issues (not the same)

Yes I have my niece short term - option was foster care and after seeing the !!!!! that cones from people like you who are so called foster carers you see why I'd never let that happen

Triplets are not mine - what is that to do with me?

I can post you my life history, bit weird how you stalk my posts, thought you'd be too busy moving? Still you amuse me, so I've had a chuckle. Proves how benefit claimants can at times be so far removed from normality when they think something's wrong when children have friends over and you send them to theirs as a reciprocal agreement.

You have a habit of trying to pick my posts and look like an idiot when you are so wrong. Maybe when not on my phone I will post them.

Then you can go all defensive and what did you call the last poster you disagreed with - vile words based on their weight issues, then someone posted your family photo and oh the irony :rotfl:

princessdon

sulkisu wrote: »

I wouldnt say you were an oddball but I do think that we are talking about different things.

As I said I would do it occasionally (for example to help out in an emegency). Playdates and having children around for a few hours or even a few days sometimes, I could also manage. But I was talking about a situation where every weekend or every evening is spent caring for somebodyelse's children so that they can work. A regular long term commitment which you have to fulfill regardless of how sick, tired, busy you are because that person depends on you - that's a different scenario altogether. You also mentioned term time working and finishing early on a Tuesday. If I worked the same, then I would probably be more inclined to give up the little bit of free time that I do have. I am guessing (although I could be wrong ) that if you worked full-time, 48 weeks of the year and had to have those 12 children every weekday evening, or those triplets every single weekend, which you would if their parents jobs depended on it, it might wear thin after a while.

I'm not having a dig, but I do think we are talking about different things.

No I think it's the two ends of the extreme. I work full time but have flexi - home working built in. So like today the school offer an after school activity - but ends at 4.15. Out of schools is same price so parents pay a lot for a few minutes.

It's no bother to bring them here for their parents to pick up (older children are easier than younger).

I'd not cope with young ones, but older ones just play in the garden.

Then one day a week my older kids go to their house.

It's definitely not the same as having kids all day when young (hence why i used a nursery), but when kids get older and are in school it becomes more normal. Especially if parents have a day they finish early, you can swap.

That's what I meant, it is easier (particularly if they are part time) to have a houseful one day then swap another day so you can work later.

If I had someone at home I'd probably not do this as not need to, but when you need to have someone you can call on if needed, the easiest way is to offer when it's not a bother then they do the same.

It's MUCH easier term time - I struggled during holidays for years, hence why I never mind. We have voting on Thursday so school closed, I can't take holidays during term time, so a friend has my brood all day, because during the holidays I have hers.

I guess it's just easier when they are older.

I'm exhausted looking after younger ones, but don't see older ones unless they can't find the biscuits when their friends are here.

wattdallas

princessdon wrote: »

I don't sail at all -wrong again

No disabled parents - dont help them -wrong again.

No brain tumour for my sister - wrong again

My daughters friends come for breakfast - crime of the century

No Chinese herbalist has ever cured me of anything - wrong again

My daughter is NOT disabled. She has medical issues (not the same)

Yes I have my niece short term - option was foster care and after seeing the !!!!! that cones from people like you who are so called foster carers you see why I'd never let that happen

Triplets are not mine - what is that to do with me?

I can post you my life history, bit weird how you stalk my posts, thought you'd be too busy moving? Still you amuse me, so I've had a chuckle. Proves how benefit claimants can at times be so far removed from normality when they think something's wrong when children have friends over and you send them to theirs as a reciprocal agreement.

You have a habit of trying to pick my posts and look like an idiot when you are so wrong. Maybe when not on my phone I will post them.

Then you can go all defensive and what did you call the last poster you disagreed with - vile words based on their weight issues, then someone posted your family photo and oh the irony :rotfl:

You took your time :rotfl: WRONG - maybe you need to look back over your posts ;)cough cough bs .Not my fault your family are drug addicts and don't look after their children ,so don't blame foster carers .I find it very amusing watching you troll - I mean over 4000 posts since last year hilarious ,maybe you need to get out more.Thers a bit of difference of being a size 14 than a size 28 ,so your irony has gone right out the window:rotfl:Princessless would be interesting to read about your sailing /surfing school for Austin children .Do you have a website ?Didnt you try to trace a poster on Facebook to make her look like a fool but got the wrong person :rotfl:Oh the irony !!!!!! Yes I do receive some benefits as a full time carer ,that's because I choose to look after my child not stick her in a home like granny .

Morlock

Jobseekers are ordered to take a bogus psychometric test under threat of sanction. The test is developed by the government's 'nudge' department which receives £500,000 per year, £100,000 of which is paid as a salary to Dr David Halpern, one of David Cameron's friends.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/30/jobseekers-bogus-psychometric-tests-unemployed


http://skwalker1964.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/a-tale-of-two-maggies/

Dunroamin

Morlock wrote: »

I don't think it is 'sensitive' to ask for further details when making supposed statements of fact that suit your particular ideology.

Stating that the moon is made of cheese is a lot different to stating a belief that the moon is made of cheese. I suspect you don't even have a clue as to what percentage of single parents are in-work, never mind how many can't work because adequate childcare provision is unavailable.

Well, let's hope that none of them are being dishonest and claiming JSA then.

Morlock

Dunroamin wrote: »

Well, let's hope that none of them are being dishonest and claiming JSA then.

There are valid exceptions with regard to single-parents, by limiting what hours they are expected to work whilst children are under a certain age. Part-time during school hours may not be a problem, but a full-time position may present significant childcare problems.

The part-timers may well wish to increase hours and work full-time but are prevented from doing so by childcare constraints. Also, if working full-time and allowing children to stay home alone, expect the Daily Mail to start banging on about neglected 'latch-key kids' and how they are more likely to be obese.

2busrules

I finished on the work programme a couple of months ago. Since then I've gone onto a computer course, continued to do my job search and found some freelance work that might allow me to sign off. My forms are always filled out properly.

HOWEVER, last month I had to attend an interview on a Monday and caught the bus down to the city centre. I didn't know that a road had been closed and as a result there were long traffic jams. I arrived a couple of minutes late for my appointment and was told to come back tomorrow morning.

I left a bit earlier the next day and again was stuck in traffic, a part of the journey that would normally take a minute took nearly 15. I turned up late again just by a few minutes, had to fill forms out and discovered later in the week that I had been sanctioned for 4 weeks and the hardship payment I did get wouldn't be paid for the first two weeks of the sanction.

My sanction ended and I went to sign on as usual on a Monday, that went ok. The next interview was scheduled for Thursday but somehow I thought it was the Friday, all my documents were signed for Friday 20th Sept, I tuned up dead on time and then discovered I was a day late. As a result I've been sanctioned for a further 13 weeks.

I suffer from depression and anxiety a fact the job centre are fully aware of. With all the medication I'm on I do sometimes get disorientated and confused. I made an honest mistake last week, sometimes I do get my days mixed up.

To make matters even more frustrating I told my adviser that I use a site called peopleperhour.com where I have managed to get some freelance work. I can only make a certain number of applications a month before having to pay for them. I asked for financial assistance of either £5 or £10 a month and was turned down.

What do these sanctions hope to achieve? If I wasn't looking for work then sure refuse to pay me any benefit. But to do this for other reasons is just counter productive.