Sanctions

Dunroamin

iammumtoone wrote: »

At what age do you expect a child be be able to look after their self? I am a lone parent and I would not be happy about leaving a 13 year old on their own on the weekend to look after them self all day whilst I was at work (I am not totally sure of the law, but is this illegal?). There is no childcare available at the weekends or evenings.

No, it isn't illegal.

Personally, I can't see why the average 13 year old couldn't be left for a day once a week, as long as certain safeguards are in place.

seven-day-weekend

I personally would not have been happy leaving my son on his own all day at 13. But he could go and stay at his friend's house all day if necessary. Surely there are few people for whom this is not an option? Friends or relatives? Or someone who would be happy to come to your house all day?

osdset

Typical reply's from the Daily Mail cohort, working weekends is fine, so long as it's someone else doing it, leaving kids alone to fend for themselves is OK so long as it's someone else's kids.

I'm just waiting for a bright spark to suggest re-introducing kids into cotton mills and chimney's.

seven-day-weekend

osdset wrote: »

Typical reply's from the Daily Mail cohort, working weekends is fine, so long as it's someone else doing it, leaving kids alone to fend for themselves is OK so long as it's someone else's kids.

I'm just waiting for a bright spark to suggest re-introducing kids into cotton mills and chimney's.

My son and his girlfriend usually work weekends. He works in a supermarket and she is a kitchen assistant in a care home.

kafkathecat

osdset wrote: »

Typical reply's from the Daily Mail cohort, working weekends is fine, so long as it's someone else doing it, leaving kids alone to fend for themselves is OK so long as it's someone else's kids.

I'm just waiting for a bright spark to suggest re-introducing kids into cotton mills and chimney's.

Despite the fact that there are no jobs for people to do many people need to believe that it is the fault of the poor that they are poor and that it could never happen to them. Job centres are under pressure to sanction claimants and people have been sanctioned for not sending letters they could show were sent and not receiving letters sent second class. This includes people doing Workfare who are then working for absolutely zero money but will be sanctioned for even longer if they stop. Many people being sanctioned are mentally ill, so much for care in the community.
As long as you believe that poor people are somehow different to you it doesn't matter how they are treated. The same people who support these measures almost inevitably support the building of more prisons which is the likely result of removing all means of sustenance from people.
Do unto others and all that.

iammumtoone

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I personally would not have been happy leaving my son on his own all day at 13. But he could go and stay at his friend's house all day if necessary. Surely there are few people for whom this is not an option? Friends or relatives? Or someone who would be happy to come to your house all day?

For the odd day yes I suspect most people probably could find someone (me included). However with a job you would need to find/expect someone to do this every week. In my situation I do not have any family who could do this, I do have friends but wouldn't ask them to commit to looking after my child every week it would be unfair they have their own lives and family to take care of.

iammumtoone

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

My son and his girlfriend usually work weekends. He works in a supermarket and she is a kitchen assistant in a care home.

Do you mind me asking who looks after their child(ren) whilst they are at work?

Dunroamin

osdset wrote: »

Typical reply's from the Daily Mail cohort, working weekends is fine, so long as it's someone else doing it, leaving kids alone to fend for themselves is OK so long as it's someone else's kids.
.

Do you think none of us have ever worked weekends (or shifts for that matter)? If you can't leave an average 13 year old alone for a while, it says something about your parenting.

Morlock

iammumtoone wrote: »

Do you mind me asking who looks after their child(ren) whilst they are at work?

I doubt that they have any children.

seven-day-weekend

iammumtoone wrote: »

Do you mind me asking who looks after their child(ren) whilst they are at work?

They don't have children, but if they did, she is home by three and he would ask for afternoon/evening shifts. For the few hours they might need childcare, they would presumably pay a babysitter. Like people have always done.