Sanctions

exarmydreamer

iammumtoone wrote: »

That is not the case if you are a lone parent with a child under 7. There are special rules that apply, you are allowed to only look for work within school hours, but are expected to work during school holidays. Also you are given longer to start work after you are offered a job, as you will have to put childcare arrangements in place. I am on this scheme and can tell you there are virtually no jobs within school hours! so I am having looking for work outside these hours although I do not have to accept these jobs, its just that I want to work so need to accept different hours. Its is still difficult as i am restricted to working hours when the nursery is open (not weekends or evenings)

You are right, in the case of under 7 and single of course. I was referring in general to Dunroamin who only asked about school hours.

I was talking about unfair sanctions to all job seekers who are not given a choice as to what job suits their situation, no matter what their circumstances are. There are several examples being talked about on here which have been given unfair sanctions for various reasons.

seven-day-weekend

exarmydreamer wrote: »

You are right, in the case of under 7 and single of course. I was referring in general to Dunroamin who only asked about school hours.

I was talking about unfair sanctions to all job seekers who are not given a choice as to what job suits their situation, no matter what their circumstances are. There are several examples being talked about on here which have been given unfair sanctions for various reasons.

Sorry, if you want to receive public money for looking for a job, I don't think you have the luxury of looking for one that 'suits your situation' other than the rules that are already there to accommodate single parents etc.

I looked for one that 'suited my situation' when my son was small, but didn't claim any Benefits for doing so.

Morlock

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

No offence meant, but I honestly do find it difficult to believe that someone would be sanctioned for four weeks JUST for making a mistake in writing down a date.

I've heard that it happens a lot, sanctions imposed for not filling in the job search diary 'properly', even though all of the relevant information is presented, particularly for claimants whose first language is not English. It helps to achieve Jobcentre sanction targets, spurious sanctions are issued regularly.

osdset

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Sorry, if you want to receive public money for looking for a job, I don't think you have the luxury of looking for one that 'suits your situation' other than the rules that are already there to accommodate single parents etc.

I looked for one that 'suited my situation' when my son was small, but didn't claim any Benefits for doing so.

I signed on briefly in 2008, the 'public money' I received, in my opinion was a small return on the 35 years worth of contributions I made into the system.

National Insurance isn't insurance is it? Who in their right mind would willingly pay out a variable sum each week for an insurance scheme that does not actually guarantee a return. JSA is called an allowance now rather than an entitlement. And for those that paid in for all their working lives I would call it theft by the government on a grand scale.

Dunroamin

exarmydreamer wrote: »

You are right, in the case of under 7 and single of course. I was referring in general to Dunroamin who only asked about school hours.
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Seeing that Gem is a lone parent with a child under the age of 7, it's perfectly possible for her to restrict her hours. I don't understand why you're querying this.

Ellejmorgan

Dunroamin wrote: »

Seeing that Gem is a lone parent with a child under the age of 7, it's perfectly possible for her to restrict her hours. I don't understand why you're querying this.

it's changed now, the age is 5 for children, they are putting sanctions on many parents who state that they can't be available..Now in order to claim JSA they expect you to be available on a Saturday, if you state no child care you will be sanctioned, many lone parents have been already...

This was also detailed in a document that was leaked regarding walthamstow job enter, and clearly stated reasons for removal of benefits and the fact their targets need to improve...

Years ago, yes it would have been about rules and regs, but there are no rules and regs any longer, it's all about getting as many off benefits as possible...

bigboybrother

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

it's changed now, the age is 5 for children, they are putting sanctions on many parents who state that they can't be available..Now in order to claim JSA they expect you to be available on a Saturday, if you state no child care you will be sanctioned, many lone parents have been already...

This was also detailed in a document that was leaked regarding walthamstow job enter, and clearly stated reasons for removal of benefits and the fact their targets need to improve...

Years ago, yes it would have been about rules and regs, but there are no rules and regs any longer, it's all about getting as many off benefits as possible...

What's wrong with looking at jobs that need you to work on a Saturday or even a Sunday come to think of it?

As it a weekend, you will have more of a chance of arranging child care with friends or family.

Dunroamin

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

it's changed now, the age is 5 for children, they are putting sanctions on many parents who state that they can't be available..Now in order to claim JSA they expect you to be available on a Saturday, if you state no child care you will be sanctioned, many lone parents have been already...

This was also detailed in a document that was leaked regarding walthamstow job enter, and clearly stated reasons for removal of benefits and the fact their targets need to improve...

Years ago, yes it would have been about rules and regs, but there are no rules and regs any longer, it's all about getting as many off benefits as possible...

From Gov.UK

"If you are a lone parent, you can restrict the number of hours you are available in a particular
week, as long as you are available for as many hours as your caring responsibilities allow. This
must be for a minimum of 16 hours.
If you have a youngest child aged under 13, you have the right to restrict the hours you are
available to work to your child’s normal school hours. "

The only way in which the age of 5 is relevant is that when their youngest child reaches that age, a lone parent can no longer claim IS and has to switch to JSA and look for work.

seven-day-weekend

I too see nothing wrong in having to work weekends, many people have to. The parents with younger children can still limit their jobsearch to school hours.

iammumtoone

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I too see nothing wrong in having to work weekends, many people have too. The parents with younger children can still limit their jobsearch to school hours.

At what age do you expect a child be be able to look after their self? I am a lone parent and I would not be happy about leaving a 13 year old on their own on the weekend to look after them self all day whilst I was at work (I am not totally sure of the law, but is this illegal?). There is no childcare available at the weekends or evenings.