Baroness Thatcher passed away

Itismehonest

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

With all due respect it doesn't take Einstein to work it out.

It may have taken more than an Einstein to work out how to get a diplomatic outcome when the Argentinians had already invaded with armed forces.
I'm presuming that's what you're referring to?
Unlike more recent conflicts we've been embroiled in, the Falklands was not us going in all guns blazing uninvited.

trollopscarletwoman

ILW wrote: »

Argentina, Ireland , not sure what you were referring to?

Well, the electoral gain from the easily led is usually atributed to the Falklands (which Thatcher intended to give up) rather than the imperialist catastrophe in the island of Ireland.

angrypirate

Mallotum_X wrote: »

It is natural that when someone who was in the public eye dies that people will reflect on the public side of that person, and on a discussion board people will discuss.

As has been said Thatcher divided opinion, and its interesting to see some of the comments on here.

Personally I did not like her politics or much of what she stood for, but having had family members suffer from alzheimers, including my grandmother who died from a stroke in probably not too dissimilar circumstances one can feel compassion to the person, her family and friends. However that would not change my opinion of her as a politician, but are two sides of a coin. She was the politician and yet as much as I dislike in fairly strong terms what she presided over I am saddened over another death in such circumstances.

It would be nice to see people like piglet and old git be a little more like this. At the end of the day, a very public figure has died. A son and daughter have lost a mother and more importantly, the person who invented Mr Whippy died.

trollopscarletwoman

Itismehonest wrote: »

It may have taken more than an Einstein to work out how to get a diplomatic outcome when the Argentinians had already invaded with armed forces.
I'm presuming that's what you're referring to?
Unlike more recent conflicts we've been embroiled in, the Falklands was not us going in all guns blazing uninvited.

A diplomatic solution through the un could have been sought. It never really was. Thatcher in imperial mode saw that through the easily led (Hitlers face in the crowd syndrome) that she could curry favour from the electorate. Besides, rather than the loss of life-they can have it which was the intention that is obviously denied.

PaulF81

StevieJ wrote: »

Now you do surprise me after all the bile you spout about old people and the sooner they meet their end the better.

I have never said that. Margret Thatcher served her country for over a decade and left this country with a legacy which labour utterly wasted.

A truly great leader, internationally respected.

CLAPTON

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

Well, the electoral gain from the easily led is usually atributed to the Falklands (which Thatcher intended to give up) rather than the imperialist catastrophe in the island of Ireland.

bizarre

you are seriously saying that generals' regime would have negotiated in good faith?

a murderous regime, that imprisoned pregnant women, waited until they gave birth, kidnapped the baby and then throw the women out of a plane?

Itismehonest

trollopscarletwoman wrote: »

A diplomatic solution through the un could have been sought. It never really was. Thatcher in imperial mode saw that through the easily led (Hitlers face in the crowd syndrome) that she could curry favour from the electorate. Besides, rather than the loss of life-they can have it which was the intention that is obviously denied.

As a wife of a serving member of the forces at the time I remember things slightly differently.
It saddens me to say it but the UN is a toothless guard dog. It can seldom get it's act together to agree, let alone act, effectively on anything.
I wonder if you would have the same opinion if you had been living on the Falklands at the time?

wotsthat

andy.m wrote: »

I do not and never will understand the need for the lefties to spout vile hateful comments about someone who passes away, just because they held a different political ideal.

Yet there doesn't seem to be the same response when the shoe is ont he other foot.

You should probably avoid the internet. Leftie, rightie etc etc. makes no difference - the direction of this car crash of a thread was easy to predict.

When Gordon Brown pops his clogs the resulting thread will be identical.

PaulF81

wotsthat wrote: »

You should probably avoid the internet. Leftie, rightie etc etc. makes no difference - the direction of this car crash of a thread was easy to predict.

When Gordon Brown pops his clogs the resulting thread will be identical.

I don't think any conservative I know would be as in dignified to celibrate his death no matter how villified he will be judged by history.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

wotsthat wrote: »

It's the internet and you've been here long enough to know exactly how this thread would go. You've played the game well though and managed to take another step up towards the moral high ground whilst simultaneously making silly comments about people's political leanings being an indicator of whether they are horrid or not.

Utterly transparent, ain't it?