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  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Surely BTL is a good thing.
    It has allowed hundreds of thousands of people to buy second or third properties without having to pay for them.
    How can that be bad?

    Nothing against BTL it's just that I can't see how selling off council houses for half what they were worth and then renting them back at 2 or 3x the rent was good for the country.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    howee wrote: »

    We are often led to believe she killed the mines off but how much longer would they have stumbled on?

    The idea that Thatcher closed the coal mines is ludicrous.

    Some statistics here, showing a steady decline from the First World War onwards, on p.2:

    http://www.ncm.org.uk/docs/collections-documents/statistics-in-mining.pdf?sfvrsn=2
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 10 April 2013 at 7:04PM
    howee wrote: »

    On selling the family silver would gas/electric or water be any better or cheaper under a nationalised system? We don't have any of them any cheaper or more expensive than any other country in Europe in fact we have the 4th cheapest in Europe. The only difference is instead of the profits going to shareholders funds would have gone to overblown pensions & waste.

    We will never know German and French governments were quite happy to buy into our energy and are also looking to "invest" in our nuclear industry. China have brought in to our Water. Invest in the loosest sense of the word, as it isn't really a risk when you want a guaranteed rate of return. I wonder if they will take their dirty waste off shore when they have finished wit it or will it be the taxpayer picking up the bill.

    Some dividends and share growth filter into our pensions but a cut of the profits finds it way back to the the overseas parents, money that could have been "wasted" internally.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    Don't remember my parents forgoing central heating, double glazing, colour telly, a telephone or holidays so they could have more disposable income. Rather they didn't have those things because they were expensive and they didn't have the disposable income to start with.

    We didn't need central heating or double glazing but ice on the insides of the windows and being the nominated child to get up and make the fire wasn't great.

    Didn't need a telephone either but using a 'phone box entailed a walk and then, when talking on the 'phone, having to endure that 'phone box smell that was a cross between p**s, jeyes fluid and damp telephone directories. The calls were expensive too - 2p - you could get 4 Black Jacks for that!

    We don't need a lot of things on offer today but many of them do enhance life.

    I wonder how many people were on benefits back the though? More people in lower paid jobs. I can see us drifting back to that, relative consumption level, as a nation.

    Yeah scratching ice off the inside of the windows character building. Getting dressed for school in front of the 2KW radiant fire in the kitchen.

    1p toffee logs and Caramac "choclate".

    I can just remember the A & B buttons on phones.:eek:
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • dryhat
    dryhat Posts: 1,305 Forumite
    Privatisation of vital industries is another, if not the biggest, con of the thatcher era.

    It was sold along the lines that it would lead to competition and hence better services.

    Apart from BT (and that is just down to technology) this has turned out to be total bull5s1t and has just lined the pockets of lying and thieving city spivs at the expense of the customers.
  • Fella
    Fella Posts: 7,921 Forumite
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    Electricity service for starters is infinitely better. When did you last experience a power cut because of a strike?
  • dryhat
    dryhat Posts: 1,305 Forumite
    Fella wrote: »
    Electricity service for starters is infinitely better. When did you last experience a power cut because of a strike?


    With all due respect, that has got f*ck all to do with privatisation.
  • sheffield_lad
    sheffield_lad Posts: 1,990 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    dryhat wrote: »
    With all due respect, that has got f*ck all to do with privatisation.

    I disagree, imagine what type of money meter readers would be on in the public sector £30K? ;) and how many days would have been lost to even more strikes. :eek:

    As pointed out earlier we have some of the cheapest electric & gas in Europe, (4th cheapest), despite the press (mainly BBC), making out the shareholders are holding the country to ransom.
  • dryhat
    dryhat Posts: 1,305 Forumite
    howee wrote: »
    I disagree, imagine what type of money meter readers would be on in the public sector £30K? ;) and how many days would have been lost to even more strikes. :eek:


    But the unions were beaten long before privatisation of the electric industry.

    They are two completely separate issues.
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