any idea how much to chage main stopcock

cyclonebri1

Oh sorry forgot it was the "support your poor local plumber" section of the forum.:D:D:D


I am fully aware that a raggy ended pipe is of no use for a joint, I'm also aware that pipe will have to be added, so the grinder was simply to quickly get the valve out of the way so that space could be created to get a pipe cutter in.

I know professional plumber make a great contribution here BUT you guys do have to realise the actual purpose of this forum.

Canucklehead

I have, on occasion, taken the headworks out of the body and replaced with a new one from a new valve. No need to change whole valve.
It doesn't always work, but a good plan 'A'.

Plan 'B' cut out complete valve. (with pipeslice;))

Portly_Pig

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Oh sorry forgot it was the "support your poor local plumber" section of the forum.:D:D:D


I am fully aware that a raggy ended pipe is of no use for a joint, I'm also aware that pipe will have to be added, so the grinder was simply to quickly get the valve out of the way so that space could be created to get a pipe cutter in.

I know professional plumber make a great contribution here BUT you guys do have to realise the actual purpose of this forum.

Do you think the op owns an angle grinder or knows what a lump hammer is?

Maybe it's best they use a plumber before slashing at the pipe.

mart.vader

Come on, guys, the OP (Stopcockleaking2310) won't understand what you're saying, he won't have any of the tools or be able to use them. He won't even be able to describe the parts he needs.

Plenty of people (plumbers included) have flooded houses because they couldn't fit the right part, properly.

It'll be like the Posiedon Adventure, all over again !

Canucklehead's advice is sound, but the OP won't know what a pipeslice is

Avoriaz

fto wrote: »

Could you claim off your house insurance?

No.

Insurance doesn't cover maintenance or replacement of worn out parts like this.

He might however need insurance if he floods the house after using the angle grinder and lump hammer suggestions above.

p4tti

Just had this done as the stopcock was jammed and was easier to replace, total cost £80. I am in the North West.

Mr_Ted

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Oh sorry forgot it was the "support your poor local plumber" section of the forum.:D:D:D
I know professional plumber make a great contribution here BUT you guys do have to realise the actual purpose of this forum.

:mad:Its not JUST about support your local plumber, its also about quality at a reasonable price???
If you had need of heart surgery, would you like a porter to do the job for you;)

Having seen the pictures and the manner of the OP(and his other post on the same topic)
1) the pipework and stopcock were clearly at one time buried in the wall, been leaking for some time I suspect, and have duly been subjected to the sulphates from the wall structure, and that of age and poor maintenance, which will have degraded the metal to a point that it would be probably doubtful that a good joint can be achieved:(
2) Due to the above, it would be my opinion if I were either wanting to have the job done, or doing it, to cut back the pipe, probably to under the floor, to a point where there is the least damge and the pipe is sound, and replace the whole pipework and stopcock up to the nearest branch, or outlet:(
3) It is also clear from the tone of the OP that there is an attitude displayed that not only shows a distinct lack of knowledge but also a distinct requirement to expect the job to be BOTCHED for pennies:(

If thats what this place is all about, then on your heads be the consequences, and that of ANYONE that either wants or carries out a job in the manner SOME voice:eek:

Its also about time some responders consider the use of sarcastic comment and humourous responses, such as LUMP HAMMER, from people who actually understand the irresponsible and ludicrous expectations, requirements and lack of professionalism portrayed by SOME responders, BECAUSE THEY SEE HOW PATHETIC SOME COMMENTS ACTUALLY ARE:mad:

If a jobs worth doing its worth doing well, and that in the LONG RUN is the best and cheapest way to be :money:

cyclonebri1

Mr_Ted wrote: »

:mad:Its not JUST about support your local plumber, its also about quality at a reasonable price???
If you had need of heart surgery, would you like a porter to do the job for you;)

Having seen the pictures and the manner of the OP(and his other post on the same topic)
1) the pipework and stopcock were clearly at one time buried in the wall, been leaking for some time I suspect, and have duly been subjected to the sulphates from the wall structure, and that of age and poor maintenance, which will have degraded the metal to a point that it would be probably doubtful that a good joint can be achieved:(
2) Due to the above, it would be my opinion if I were either wanting to have the job done, or doing it, to cut back the pipe, probably to under the floor, to a point where there is the least damge and the pipe is sound, and replace the whole pipework and stopcock up to the nearest branch, or outlet:(
3) It is also clear from the tone of the OP that there is an attitude displayed that not only shows a distinct lack of knowledge but also a distinct requirement to expect the job to be BOTCHED for pennies:(

If thats what this place is all about, then on your heads be the consequences, and that of ANYONE that either wants or carries out a job in the manner SOME voice:eek:

Its also about time some responders consider the use of sarcastic comment and humourous responses, such as LUMP HAMMER, from people who actually understand the irresponsible and ludicrous expectations, requirements and lack of professionalism portrayed by SOME responders, BECAUSE THEY SEE HOW PATHETIC SOME COMMENTS ACTUALLY ARE[/B]:mad:

If a jobs worth doing its worth doing well, and that in the LONG RUN is the best and cheapest way to be :money:

Ok, so I now have your attention.

My comments are not pathetic, simply because you don't agree doesn't make that so. The bold bit you posted doesn't make any sense to me at all, and you really don't need to get mad, it's an exchange of views not a war.

A lump hammer is a serious suggestion, it's what any tradesman would take to give himself enough elbow room in that position, do you not agree?

Yes I temper my replies with humour, It helps,

Regarding the history of the op and any other thread, no, I'm not aware, and haven't seen or read anything in that respect, so if you have all already decided the op is winding folks up or looking for a hand out I'm sorry, my advice is outside of that.

You can check back my history if you are anal enough, you will see I had a stop !!!! to replace for an elderly relative, maybe 2 months ago?, even the water board !!!! wouldn't shut off, even so, fixed with an hours work and a 5 quid valve, and it was into concrete in a bungalow floor so needed some breathing space smashing out, hence the lump hammer (correct term) comments.


I'm glad said Mr Ted said "it's not JUSTabout support your local plumber", I'll take that as a partial acceptance that there is an element of posting in that respect on the behalf of some tradesman on here.

You are here for your reasons, I offer an alternative, I'd both expect and give respect either way. This isn't a trade forum, it's Joe Public asking how to save money, if I get it wrong and endanger Joe, my hand will go up, but if I can avoid him putting money in your pocket unnecessarily then I will.


Can I ask if you get that without offending you? There is an essential part of the forum title, "In my home (includes DIY) MoneySaving,

cyclonebri1

southcoastrgi wrote: »

the plaster has already been removed, yes it may need slightly more taken out to get a pipeslice in but even so i think the job should be around £80 inc materials

So he was being over charged??

cyclonebri1

Mr_Ted wrote: »

:rotfl:What planet are some of you from :rotfl:

Angle grinder :eek: no way the mess that would make of the pipe would mean more work :rotfl:

1/2 hour labour :rotfl: you have seen the picture havnt you :eek: it not only needs a new stopcock but an additional section of pipe to make up the difference, its in a confined space, AND cleaning up that old pipe to take a fitting will probably take 1/2 hour :T

You don't need to justify your rates to me, I know how long it takes to fit a stop !!!! in that situation

"cleaning up that old pipe to take a fitting will probably take 1/2 hour " just fell of me perch:rotfl::rotfl: